ESB eCars - Thread 2

Spoke to the esb before about the charger at kimmage power sharing. He was adamant they are 150 on both sides and are definitely not shared.

I don't think he was telling the truth.

Not sure which charger type is at Kimmage, but the link below is the standard High Power charger that ESB use. There should be a little panel on the back showing similar, but look at the link to see specs. Charger can output a max total of 200kW. It doesnt clarify how it can break it down between conectors.

However peak power seems to be lower at 400v with current being the limiting factor. By my sums 400v max is 160kW. Max at 800v is 200kW. Limitation at 400v seems to be the cable.

https://www.delta-emea.com/en-GB/products/EV-Charging/Ultra-Fast-Charger-200kW

I'm just exploring the Plugshare app a bit as an EV newbie, trying to see what it'll suggest for charging locations for a long trip down the M1 and M7. I know that the Mayfield charging hub at J14 has multiple ESB chargers (12, I think?), most of which are rated for 200kW or higher. It's a little over 220km away from where I am in Co. Antrim, so would seem to be the ideal spot to stop and charge on my way to Limerick city in a 64kWh eNiro - cruising at 110-115kmh, the battery should be approaching or even dipping below 20% by the time I get there, and I reckon I'll want to add 40-50% which should make the best use of the charging curve (i.e. speeds of about 70kW up to 72%) and get me where I'm going without any issues.

But Mayfield won't show up in the Plugshare app unless I set it to include chargers providing under 50kW speeds, i.e. set the kilowatt range to go from zero. I've tried being very specific with the filters (6+ stations, CCS1 and/or CCS2 plugs, additional amenities like restrooms/dining) and also tried checking as few filters as possible, so set the vehicle as a Kia eNiro 2019, selected fast chargers and nothing else. All the same, Mayfield still only shows up if I set the kW range from zero. I don't think it's because I'm based in NI, as ESB have loads of chargers on this side of the border. Is there something else I've missed, or is this a known quirk of the Plugshare app?

I've had the same in the model 3. Even on my own without sharing I've struggled to reach 80kw.

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Known quirk of Plugshare. The charger units on Mayfield (and plenty of other sites) don't have a speed listed. So the filter/Plugshare doesn't know what speed they are, so can't show you them as they're not captured in any filter, from 1kw or above.

Doesn't appear to be any way for the average user to edit the speeds either.

Best bet is to just filter by CCS and check a station individually if it fits your route.

I know a couple of the Ionity ones used to be the same as they were entered without a speed (eg the one in the South-East, since been fixed).

Hi all, arrived at an ESB charger today at Kildare Village (Tesco) only to find I need to have my own cables

I looked at the app and don't see any easy filter to only show chargers with a cable. I have a cable but just didnt bring it on the trip.

Am I missing something.

Got sorted in the end with the new chargers in the village (with the tiniest parking spaces)

Thanks. I have a tethered at home. The portable cable is heavy and awkward. I will know in future.

While I like Plugshare I wouldn't rely on it due to the poor filtering and generally spotty data. Also the amount of sites people have inserted that are planned but haven't broken ground yet.

They need to make the charger info more reliable.

Next time at Kildare Village go to the Chargepoint ones. They are tethered but you'll need a chargepoint account

https://www.plugshare.com/location/118882

Plugshare doesn't say what chargers they are ABRP does. Though ABRP doesn't show how any are in use but does with the other suppliers.

Just pointing out the limitations of Plugshare.

The existing ones must be getting a lot of use if they think they need another six. Any time I've been there, the worst I've seen is half full.

I'm a bit curious who uses the carrickmines hub a lot. It's it locals or people travelling a distance. You'd think people travelling would have better options before hitting carrickmines. Locals would have mostly home charging. But this location seems super busy.