Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

How do you know the invader won't start killing again after they being rewarded for their first genocide?

No one trusts Putin, do you?

I trust him more than the other guy. Now we have Germany gearing up, that worked out great the last time. Russia is not going to invade europe, nothing more than money laundering about to start big time in Europe. Harris and his fighter jet absolute nonsense stuff.

Russia, who has invaded Georgia and Ukraine in the past 20 years won't invade Europe. That's optimistic.

I just don't like the chap and I formed that opinion before the war. He went full dictator during covid, no surpise a lot of them jumped ship when the opportunity presented itself.

"Now we have Germany gearing up, that worked out great the last time"

As you've framed it as a negative, you do realise that's down to Trump as well. Both due to his threats to invade allies and his inaction against Russian aggression.

Full dictator, you mean the guy trying to rule by Executive order, without Congress…

Trump.

If Trump wants peace then actively supporting warmongers is the wrong way to go about it.

The war in Ukraine could end tomorrow if Putin pulls his troops out - but every decision Trump makes supports their invasion and guarantees more death will occur.

You have to be wilfully ignorant to believe he cares one bit about peace.

Tell me more how you don't like wannabe dictators, Mr. Trump supporter....

The problem is he has other plans such as nuke disarmament and trade with Russia etc. He was never going to side against Russia or all that goes up in smoke. He dosent give a toss about Ukraine. Maybe he gets his deal on the minerals - either way Ukraine is not getting their land back.

Exactly. The problem with how Trump and MAGA are trying to spin all of this (because he's so desperate to end the war in a blink like he said he would) is that peace is a pretty complicated thing. When you're dealing with an authoritarian figure like Putin who has made it clear both in his ideological statements and his actions that he is a territorial expansionist, it's even more complicated. Hitler marched into the Rhineland, Austria and Sudetenland without a bullet fired and it seems that today's US Republicans would have us believe that acquiescing to this aligns to their simplistic view of peace.

Peace has to be just and lasting. You can't just allow authoritarian dictators to slowly chip away at their neighbours, bit by bit, until this appeasement allows them to gradually build their power and confidence into something even more dangerous — and emboldens other regimes.

And it's not just about the worst case scenarios people tend to invoke about Russia marching into the Baltics etc. It's also about Russia's ability to use its growing power to disrupt European democracy, continue engineering migration crises, and de-rail the Western alliance (as it is already succeeding in doing).

Good to see you acknowledging that Trump can do some wrong.

It's hard to tell if that poster is talking about Trump or Putin.