Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

Is that the punishment for treason these days, we'll make you a bit poorer. I always thought treason was considered worse than murder and they'd fry you for stealing a snickers in some american states.

“Tesla Takedown” is the term I believe - plenty of anti- Tesla activity happening on the ground at Tesla dealers

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/anti-trump-activists-target-elon-musks-tesla-brand-protest-doge-cuts-2025-03-06/

The calls for ethnic cleansing, defunding vital medical treatments, being the bitch of oligarchs and throwing Ukraine to the wolves. Honestly incredibly easy to not like the man and I've only given a handful of reasons.

That's what certain types like him for.

In this current climate id happily rate that a successful visit - hopefully MM has the cop on to keep things neutral in front of the cameras - sound bytes such as “we have much more in common than we have differences” and “good friends often have disagreements but the strength of the friendship always overcomes these differences” sort of stuff

I'm fairly sure that I read Michigan and Pennsylvania would be affected. They voted red last time, so they can go swivel and sit in the dark for a while. A good time to think about what they've done.

You've referred to Irish and UK stats. I've pointed out that their sales have plummeted drastically globally. And that can't be explained away as everyone waiting for the new model. January and February sales are also key indicators. You've also moved the goal posts, you were happy to use Irish and UK Tesla sales for January and February originally. 😂

Fyi, I went electric a year back and intentionally avoided Tesla because of Musk. And that was before he started to offer threats of exiting NATO etc. Europe isn't a maga fan and is being threatened with tariffs as well... So all that works against the brand. On top of that, a far bigger EV market in contrast to five years ago. Consumers have lots of options.

Given the way the brand has gone a year later, not the worst idea. Taking one brand out of my options when there's loads of options isn't that big a deal. Also telling you've not actually addressed any of my points. Tesla are already having their worst sales years in years.... And I can't see it changing.

Also in relation to government propaganda, the sales figures are from individual markets. It's not from a government beyond the fact governments making car registrations publicly available. What's the propaganda exactly?

I don't think I remember seeing so swift a currency drop betwixt OECD parings since the Brexit vote announcement, falling from 1.04 to possibly 1.10 by the end of today.

The whole Brexit fantasy was that EU membership was restricting the UK from a bigger better global market, and now Trump is trying to coerce the global economy to align to MAGA.

The Dems clearly paid for China and Europe too buy far fewer Teslas than normal. I think we all know that. 😂

He wants to stop the killing, what issue have you with that. Standing with Ukraine but not actually putting any skin in the game is not standing with Ukraine. The man wants peace you need to give him a break and before you say it Russian is not going to try and conquer europe.

If he wants to stop the killing then he'd be onboard with kicking Russia out of Ukraine. Where do you think all the refugees came from?

Great and all as these videos may be- Bernie Sanders made a 26 minute video the other day too - unfortunately they’re just too long too factual and probably seen as too boring to engage the current American electorate in the main - while the videos are admirable and most likely accurate in their criticisms , my question is, who’s really watching them? I think it’s a case of preaching to the converted - they probably need a tik-tok style edit to bring them to less than a minute with all the key points brought out in that time and maybe they’ll start to reach a wider electorate

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2IlIol6a1EY

He doesn't give a damn about peace. The mess he left Afghanistan in was not peace.

His threats to Gaza and Palestinians are not about peace. They are backing the Israel position.

If he wanted peace in Ukraine, he could provide real security guarantees and guarantee peace of a sovereign Ukraine.
He doesn't want peace, he wants surrender, and he doesn't give a damn what Russia does to a surrendered Ukraine.
It is not peace if people aren't living in safety and security, if they are living at risk of atrocities like Bucha.

Give him a break? He is a racist and a rapist, who in the election campaign whipped up racial hatred with race baiting drivel about immigrants eating pets.

He talks about annexing Greenland - territory of an ally.

He talks about making Canada a 51st state - an ally.

That is not a man of peace.