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Ireland Team Talk XII: Farrell's First Fifteen

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,490 ✭✭✭All_in_Flynn


    Thornley was saying that they are going for this approach from a tactical perspective in that they want the forwards to absolutely empty themselves so that they can get the space to go wide. Something to that effect anyway.

    It's a massive risk.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,651 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I hope it backfires spectacularly. It is a fundamentally stupid idea.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,206 ✭✭✭ionadnapóca


    The French are ruffled.

    Dropping Penaud-Bringing him back-Cheaty Henry in camp-Alldritt 'Groin' issue to mirror Doris knock-

    The 7-1 Bench is the biggest indicator that they are desperate.

    IF Ireland score 1st Try and are leading at H-T; The French wont come back into it.

    7-1 has only convinced me further of that.

    Its still a big IF but the last time France won at Lansdowne Road when behind at HT was 1999. edit & 2011!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,719 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Ireland dealt well with South Africa's 7)1 at the World Cup iirc. They were never overwhelmed by the extra physicality that bench brought.

    La Rochelle went 7/1 against Leinster a few months ago and it didn't really work either. I don't like the risk you take with your squad. If there's one injury in the backline you have to reshuffle everything.

    When Leinster played Toulouse in the 2023 Champions Cup semi final the French side went with a 6/2. They lost Barassi to injury early in the game so Ntamack had to move from 10 to centre and Dupont moved to flyhalf. They moved their entire playmaking hub because they had insufficient cover. They were hammered 41-22 and struggled in attack for large parts of that game. It's an even bigger risk with a 7/1. France might think they have cover with the players on the pitch but imo they'd be far worse if a switch like the above occurred again.



  • Administrators Posts: 55,069 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Can someone start a match thread? Give us a decent write-up for this one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,206 ✭✭✭ionadnapóca


    I'll do one but If anyone else wants to by all means….



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,864 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Here's the official announced line up.

    15. Hugo Keenan (UCD/Leinster)(44)
    14. Jamie Osborne (Naas/Leinster)(6)
    13. Robbie Henshaw (Buccaneers/Leinster)(80)
    12. Bundee Aki (Galwegians/Connacht)(63)
    11. James Lowe (Leinster)(39)
    10. Sam Prendergast (Lansdowne/Leinster)(6)
    9. Jamison Gibson-Park (Leinster)(41)

    1. Andrew Porter (UCD/Leinster)(73)
    2. Dan Sheehan (Lansdowne/Leinster)(30)
    3. Finlay Bealham (Corinthians/Connacht)(49)
    4. Joe McCarthy (Dublin University/Leinster)(17)
    5. Tadhg Beirne (Lansdowne/Munster)(59)
    6. Peter O’Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster)(112)
    7. Josh van der Flier (UCD/Leinster)(71)
    8. Caelan Doris (St. Mary’s College/Leinster) (captain)(49)

    Replacements:

    16. Rob Herring (Ballynahinch/Ulster)(42)
    17. Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster)(136)
    18. Thomas Clarkson (Blackrock College/Leinster)(5)
    19. James Ryan (UCD/Leinster)(70)
    20. Jack Conan (Old Belvedere/Leinster)(49)
    21. Ryan Baird (Dublin University/Leinster)(26)
    22. Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster)(123)
    23. Jack Crowley (Cork Constitution/Munster)(22)

    Mack Hansen (quad) and Rónan Kelleher (neck) were unavailable for selection due to injury, while Saturday’s match came too soon for Tadhg Furlong who continues to progress in his rehabilitation.

    https://www.irishrugby.ie/2025/03/06/easterby-names-ireland-team-to-face-france-at-aviva-stadium/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,030 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Happy enough with that. Would rather Ryan start, and have had Boyle on the bench. If France defend the way they did versus Italy, I think we win it comfortably



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,719 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Osborne is a far better 12/15 than he is a wing. But he's an excellent line runner and I think/hope we'll have him make trailing runs off Henshaw's shoulder. He's a big athlete and could do a lot of damage breaking the line after receiving an offload. He also has the longest kicking distance of any player in the tournament to date. Prendergast, Lowe and he could be vitally important to counteracting the France kicking game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,490 ✭✭✭All_in_Flynn


    Front row replacements are a concern for me but expect big impact from Conan, Baird and Ryan.

    I do wonder if we will actually see Osborne play 15 despite the number on his back.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭johnh6767


    you don’t win comfortably against that French team



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,544 ✭✭✭techdiver


    Props are a concern but in fairness Herring has never let us down when coming off the bench.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    For the life of me I don't understand the reason for a 6-2.

    Beine will play the full 80 and if there's an issue in the back row he can move there. O'Mahoney is the only one of them that is coming off unless there's an injury. We'd be much better with a 5-3 and proper cover for the backs.

    I wouldn't have Baird.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Mr Tickle


    In a couple of years that boot will be very useful when it comes to replacing Lowe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 460 ✭✭Tommybojangles




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,030 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    we hammered them last year in Paris, and beat them the year prior, when they had better teams.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭Tinter Box


    Marseille 😝😎



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,030 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,562 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    There are injury concerns over both Doris and Conan, and Joe McCarthy has very little rugby recently.

    I don’t love the 6-2 as a concept but in this case it seems the right call.

    And we’re running out of quality backs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,441 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    Nash was available apparently, big call.



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  • Administrators Posts: 55,069 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    The issue with Osborne is not how good he is when we have the ball but rather when we don't have the ball.



  • Administrators Posts: 55,069 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Kinsella is saying Nash is fit and available which makes this Osborne call all the more bizarre IMO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,030 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Would imagine it's game plan related. Going to be raining bombs on the French. Hope our kick chase is on point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,441 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    Thought the same, Osbournes versatility helps the 6/2 split according to Easterby



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,206 ✭✭✭ionadnapóca


    The only logic I can see is that they will actually keep Osborne at FB for his Left foot.

    And thus also providing cover/enabling a 6-2.

    Keenan at 14 will have the aerial and defensive skills and pace to try and match up with Billie-Barry and exploit him in the air.

    If Osborne does starts at 14 Its a huge risk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,217 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    Once they went 6-2, I think Osbourne was always going to be involved.

    Wouldn't have started Joe over Ryan. The latter has been the much better player over the last 12 months imo. However, we are clearly using our bench differently this year so not the biggest issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    6-2 split means Nash was ruled out. only plays 1 position.

    we should see if he can prop next season



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Why would you have a starter and his potential replacement both with injury concerns?

    Fact of the matter is that VDF isn't coming off unless injured. You've got Conan for 6 or 8, that's O'Mahoney or Doris covered. If you need to replace a second one you just move Beirne to the back row and bring on Ryan.

    Beirne means you only need one for the back row on the bench.

    Joe McCarthy played against Wales and played a couple of Champions cup games. There is no fitness concerns there. He just missed a couple of weeks because of concussion protocol.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,425 ✭✭✭almostover


    Reasonably happy with that selection.

    I'd have started Ryan though, he's criminally underrated. I'd rather Joe McC come on fresh around the same time Meafou comes in fresh.

    With Ringrose and Hansen both out we sort of had to play the 6-2. Only other option would have been to start Nash and put Osborne at 23, which IMO is what we should have done. Not sure having Baird on the bench adds anything. Nash seriously unlucky to miss out.

    Biggest worry is our starting props are going to have to play 70+ mins. An injury there early in the game could be crucial.

    Edit: The Baird inclusion acknowledges that Doris won't last the 80. POM won't be asked to play 80 again and Doris may not be able to. That forced the 6-2.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,707 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    I think it's a measured call given that we're going 6/2



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