Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

Canada not the 51st State eh. We're above the states, the big land mass that the rest of the world hates!

You were alarmed that Trump was going to invade Canada, and also Greenland and Panama.

I argued with you that it was just bluster.

I didn't glorify the reception of his speech, I merely said it was seemingly well recieved by showing a poll result.

I didn't listen to his speech, I have no intention of listening to a 100 minute speech by anyone, especially a poor speaker like Trump.

Anyway I think we are done here.

You seriously think he will invade Greenland ?

It is a concept called “anchoring.” He says something outrageous at the outset of a negotiation but when it actually comes to the sit down the opposing party is going to consider anything less than that to be a win.

In Greenland he likely wants two or three American military bases. His anchoring ploy states he wants to buy the whole of Greenland or take it over, but the Danes will give him his real goal, the bases and the Danes will think they have won.

The Art of the deal.

He also uses these outlandish claims as a deflection so people will ignore the change from “I will stop the war in Ukraine within 24 hours” to “I will stop the war in Ukraine within 6 months “.

He is sowing outrage in liberal media, which has almost always paid dividends for him. After 10 years of his political career, I cant believe people still fall for it.

"nobody has ever heard of" Lesotho.

I bet that Musk has heard of it because South Africa surrounds the country and Musk lived and was educated in SA until he decided to dodge the draft and move to the Canada.

Who else dodged the draft?…would it be his pal Donald perhaps?

They both also decided to withdraw HIV support for SA.

They both also decided to allow Afrikaners to move to the US. Note, not all white South Africans just Afrikaners, who implemented the racist policies of Apartheid.

Looks like Musk is selling out his birth continent as well as the second country he moved to and is a citizen of.

This is unbelievable.

All one has to do is read up about his grandfather who moved to SA and wrote several racist papers and supported the Apartheid government to understand where his mindset is. He was brought up as a racist.

"What he said isn't what he meant"

The usual nonsense to gaslight those who heard what he said because they have ears and brains.

I see the Supreme Court upheld the ruling that USAID must pay out its existing contracts, with none other than Amy Coney Barrett the deciding vote of all people.

Given his alliance with Russia the strategic relevance of Greenland would be against Europe,it should be made clear by Germany etc to Denmark why there will be consequences to any deal with trump/Putin/musk.

What does Vance care if the British are angry? The events of the last couple of weeks are proving well enough that European countries like the UK will take insults on the chin and still come back to the US looking for support. As long as they need that support, all rage will be notably impotent.

Since Trump has torn up its strategic alignment with Europe and UK would it not make sense for Europe to look elsewhere for a major partner? India or China perhaps. If Russia were to break-up the EU could take western Russia under its wing and asiatic Russia could go to China.

Trump is outrageous but let's see how the four years play out.

People losing their minds over Greenland comments. IF and it's a big fcuking IF he invaded, he won't be the first or last US president to invade another country.

Similar with Gaza, I mean Biden was supplying the missiles for the ethnic cleansing. Let's see what Trumps version actually results in. So far it's words Vs bombs.

I'm not defending Trump. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of people claiming he's this never before seen POTUS.

He might have a very different public delivery but in reality even if he follows through with his outlandish statements he'd still have plenty of company with other US Presidents.

The orange Russian agent is doing what Putin commands.

This will be his second loss against Canada since he started, 3rd of you count the hockey game as well :)

He mentioned '20,000 troops' though : that was the proposed figure for UK and French soldiers.

Lets place a wager on it so, I will give you good odds that Trump wont invade any of the 3 countries mentioned, Canada, Greenland and Panama.

Fairytale stuff you say, well if thats the case you should be almost certain to win the bet now shouldnt you, pal.

Billionaire, twice elected President of the USA, both times as the underdog. Time Man of the Year twice, not bad for an unclever man.

Trump is stupid like a fox.

The NY Times did a a fact check on Trump's address to Congress

Paywall -

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/03/05/us/trump-speech-congress

Paywall removed -

https://archive.is/NlIWL/again?url=https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/03/05/us/trump-speech-congress

But again, what difference does this make to the voters? It is mostly about the preception as far as they are concerned.

Hitler was Time's man of the year too.

I think Trump is actually a fair representation of a segment of US society who thinks their country's relative decline is a conspiracy against them.