Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

Nice move from Zelenskyy, what will Trump say now? Whine about needing a personal apology? Repeat Russian propaganda?

I can't see the Russians going for it. UKR is much weakened without US support so the obvious time for Russia to press UKR is now.

If VZ had agreed to a truce while he had US backing then it would be different. Or if this gets the US back into the fold it would also be different.

The question is if the US just wants out to focus elsewhere or it's opting out due to vindictiveness.

Of course he didn't apologise. He didn't do anything wrong

He apologised the very next day.

And for the record I didnt feel he should have either. But obviously what happened in the press conference was the result of what was arrived at behind closed doors before that. You could see how he played along hands wringing gritted teeth. He knew.

In any case it's a clear sign of how far up sh1t creek Ukraine is.

And Zelensky himself. He reminds me of your man in Ozarks. Managing/stumbling from one catastrophe into an even worse one the next day, any of which could be very bad for him personally.

Yes, I personally think he's caught personally. He knows it's bad and he knows he wont get Russia out of territories and he knows dragging it out will make the military position worse and worse. Thats not even counting US suspending support. Maybe he can wiggle something joined/interim for some mainland territories but Crimea no way. And NATO membership he can completely forget about. They will have to step off their maximum position. There is not going to be a victory, only survival.

But I dont think he is allowed to acknowledge that. I dont want to get into CTs but he's obviously not solely in charge. Nobody ever is in any government/country and I would wager whoever other people hold power bands behind his front they may not all be the most savoury kind.

I think Zelensky has to bite the bullet on this one. Yes it has the appearance of "grovelling" etc but the world is wise to how he's been treated by Trump partially for personal vendetta reasons.

Ukraine needs some form of guarantee and that can be worked on after the initial implied guarantee is accepted.

The Trump administration argument that signing the deal gives the US economic interests and more of a stake in Ukraine that it will want to protect in it's own interest is actually a fair point in my opinion.

Just a pity the delivery of that point has been juvenile.

Billions not millions and a fair amount of this is liable to go missing. Already has by the sound of it. With that amount of money it always does. It attracts parasites like a fresh dump attracts flies both on the giving and receiving end. They flew cargo planes full of cash into Iraq and nobody knows where any of it is. It certainly didnt go into rebuilding of Iraq look at the place.

3.4$ trillion dollars got burned lately by Trump on US S&P stock market alone

You worried about the dust mite while ignoring the elephant in room

It was never true. The Battle of Avdiivka happened 9 days into Trump's first presidency!

Le Pen openly condemns Trump's treatment of zelensky.

Maroni who was also once a Trump fan also showed up for the coalition of the willing in person.

And Scholz etc. You have to go all in to get the advantage. A war can turn on a dime as they say.

It may only be an outside chance at this stage that Trump will turn the weapons spigot back on but whatever it is Zelensky has to pursue it to the last, even to the point of abasing himself before Trump, given how vital American arms are to Ukraine. Even if the support is not to the same extent Biden was providing, half a loaf is better than no bread.

A bit rich talking about others buying propaganda. 🙄

Yes ,he is just pig ignorant and obnoxious. Probably thinks he is "telling it like it is" like all these scumbags (who can dish it out but never take it).

Didn't he make that nasty "cat lady" comment before the US election or something as well?

A trailer, a boat with an unusual number of fuel tanks, and an EPIRB, wouldn't go amiss - presuming you don't have a helicopter handy.

Zelensky firmly with tongue in Trumps hole..."strong leadership"...

I think its all a waste of time now....

Sad to see...