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2025 Irish EV Sales

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  • #212
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,412 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123230366#Comment_123230366

    The only caveat is that most sales deliveries in Q1 for Tesla will be sales that may have been from December 2024. It will be interesting to see how Q2 and Q3 sales go, as that will be a real measure of Teslas sales IMO. model Y sales are massively down, so i suspect people are waiting on the refresh model? I predicted 1500 Model Y sales in 2025, but that was before the refresh was announced. I may have to eat that post!



  • #213
    KrisW1001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭KrisW1001


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123230267#Comment_123230267

    Add the FIAT Grande Panda EV to that list. Coming here in June, I think. A little cheaper than Inster/R5 (in both senses), but makes up for it with some really nice design features (the second captive 7kW AC cable hidden in the front is a genius idea).



  • #214
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,809 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123230380#Comment_123230380

    Most sales deliveries in Q1 for Tesla will be sales that may have been from December 2024

    The same is true across Europe though where Tesla sales are reportedly tanking

    Agree on the Model Y, and I'd say just before the new one is delivered there might be a drop in the price of the current model so sales will probably increase further.

    Xpeng could have an impact on the Model Y sales also



  • #215
    vimalandrew
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭vimalandrew


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123230455#Comment_123230455

    https://www.carscoops.com/2025/03/tesla-sales-plunge-44-in-norway-despite-ev-market-soaring-by-53/

    Screenshot_20250304_131125_Chrome.jpg

    https://www.carscoops.com/2025/03/tesla-sales-plunge-44-in-norway-despite-ev-market-soaring-by-53/



  • #216
    CMOTDibbler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,830 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    Interesting to see overall sales are down 1.5% on last year. That's significant.



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  • #217
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,412 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123230591#Comment_123230591

    Why are you so obsessed about one car brand? A car brand you don't or have no intention of owning?

    Toyota sales of EV’s are significantly down for Feb but they are still up in this time last year. You should be happy with that instead of trying to bash down another brand to make yourself feel better.

    IMG_0818.jpeg

    Strange.



  • #218
    sk8board
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123230291#Comment_123230291

    There’s 2.5m registered vehicles in the national fleet - the 15,000 EV’s replace less than 1% of them annually.

    You won’t be hearing about petrol stations worrying about dropping fuel sales volumes for a long time, and by then they’ll be selling some very expensive electricity to replace it



  • #219
    sk8board
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭sk8board


    It’s a very fair point - I don’t shop around when changing out family car if VW step up on the trade-in price, and they have something that suits our needs.

    There’s a reason why the ID4 is the biggest selling family EV by miles this year (and having a bit of a Lazarus-like recovery Vs last year), even though it’s now 4 years old



  • #220
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,809 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123230857#Comment_123230857

    120,000 new cars sold last year and 17.5k, or 14.5% were EVs. If the January/February trend continues throughout the year we will see that rise to 25% of new cars being electric.

    Between the increase from legacy auto manufacturers, the arrival of new all-electric manufacturers, and the 2035 ban I'd suspect petrol stations to start closing in around 2030-2031 with relatively few of them remaining to see 2035

    2035 is 10 years away, do we think a 251 registered petrol or diesel will still be kicking around then?



  • #221
    fits
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123230966#Comment_123230966

    Well I’m driving a 2010 diesel. And I’ll probably need to replace it with a diesel. No affordable EVs that can tow 2.5 tonnes and go off road just yet. ( it’s used for farm work). Few enough petrol alternatives too.

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  • #222
    Red Silurian
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123230986#Comment_123230986

    What affordable diesel do you hope to get that can tow 2.5T and go off road?



  • #223
    fits
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123231054#Comment_123231054

    an old one.

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  • #224
    Red Silurian
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123231098#Comment_123231098

    I meant make/model



  • #225
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭fits


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123231104#Comment_123231104

    no idea yet. Does it matter? Current car is an Audi q5 so something like that. It only does 10000 km a year. The EV does vast majority of mileage in this house.

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  • #226
    Buddy Bubs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,418 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123230966#Comment_123230966

    Well there's absolutely loads of 2015 petrol and diesels on the road nowadays so I'd say a lot of what is bought today will be around in 2035.

    There are even decent numbers of 2005 cars around.

    It's only policy will take them off the roads, we don't know what way those policies will go just yet.



  • #227
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,018 ✭✭✭✭josip


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123230966#Comment_123230966

    Maybe it depends on where you live, but where I live half the cars are over 10 years old.



  • #228
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 6,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123231122#Comment_123231122

    I think it will be a long time before we see policies that target existing vehicles that have already been imported. A slow and steady increase in fuel duty via carbon taxes will probably be as far as they go.

    From '24 to '25 we've seen the split between electrified and non-electrified switch around, based on the Jan-Feb comparison we're now at 55.46% of cars sold have some form of electrification, and 30.47% of cars have a plug vs 21.67% last year.

    There's a still a lot of the new market to move before any attempts to penalise the holdouts.



  • #229
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123231122#Comment_123231122

    Not quite. As electric vehicles take greater market share, we can expect forecourts to close or at least reorientate their business. Without a comprehensive fuelling network, owning an ice is much more difficult.

    Rather ironically it could be range anxiety that creates the momentum to drive the last quarter of adoption



  • #230
    MrMusician18
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    Sales were up YoY in January (7%) iirc. The world has gotten more uncertain though in the meantime.



  • #231
    Red Silurian
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123231167#Comment_123231167

    There was a plan some time ago I think around 2018 it was announced, that no car, other than zero emissions ones, would be given NCT certs after the year 2045, haven't heard much of that plan lately mind so not sure if it's been shelved or not

    Agreed that when EVs take more of the market share the service stations will stop catering for petrols and diesels. Carbon tax increases on dino fuels will need to go up by at least the rate of inflation to convince drivers to switch and in the last 2 years I don't think the price has moved much one way or another



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  • #232
    Buddy Bubs
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123231201#Comment_123231201

    What time frame are you thinking here?

    I've 2 EVs, never going back ICE but I don't see fuelling an ICE car being any sort of problem for a very long time to the extent that you would buy one.

    I'm literally surrounded by fuel stations, if half of them closed down overnight I'd still be surrounded by them. Like 20 of them within a few kms radius of where I live (Dublin) with between 10 and 20 pumps at each



  • #233
    GavMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭GavMan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123230857#Comment_123230857

    I'm being facetious with my previous post because you point out, there are still plenty of diesels registered and others currently on the road (and indeed to come and to say nothing of non-passenger car vehicles).

    My point is just a frustration that we wont see similar hysterical coverage of Diesel registrations when they are suffering proportionally similar drops in registrations.

    FWIW, I've no issues with diesels when the use case fits. I owned a diesel megane when commuting circa 100km per day previously



  • #234
    CMOTDibbler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,830 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123231205#Comment_123231205

    But that was in comparison to a 13% increase the previous year and now at the end of February, it's down 1.5%.



  • #235
    Exiled Rebel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    I wonder how BYD feel about those numbers. Their BEV sales appear to be struggling. It's possible the Seal U has nabbed some of the electric sales but still I would have expected to see them have better numbers 2 months into the year.



  • #236
    liamog
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    Maybe they'll be a 2050 National Fossil Fuel Infrastructure programme to maintain the utility of some of the 2025-2030 combustion cars that are still be kept roadworthy. I suspect thoughts of how to fuel a car in 2050 don't even enter the mind of people buying a new car today.



  • #237
    Exiled Rebel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123231357#Comment_123231357

    Vintage will need to be fueled somehow so I'm guessing a token pump in every town will be seen come 2040.



  • #238
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,412 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123231350#Comment_123231350

    I wasn’t expecting their EV sales to tank so much either. Maybe, and I’m just thinking out loud, the Chinese invasion is starting to make people wait. They are afraid at what’s next. There’s loads that wanted to try the XPeng. There’s loads that are waiting on the SealU too.

    Also, the RWD maybe needs a little haircut to get it closer to the Model 3 pricing IMO. It’s near €8k more and no matter what your stance on musk is, not many people hate him that €8k much!

    IMG_0823.jpeg

    Edit. I was being a bit unfair saying €10k in the difference when in reality is €8000-€8,850’ish.

    Post edited by Gumbo on


  • #239
    Firblog
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    What brought about the huge increase in EV6 sales?



  • #240
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,412 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123231388#Comment_123231388

    Price drops get rid of the old model before the new face lift shape arrived in Feb/Mar helped.

    Also, it’s a pretty good car!

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  • #241
    CMOTDibbler
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    Very hard to get a handle on any kind of trends at the moment. Like who predicted the EV3 would massively outsell the Hyundai Inster? Granted, Hyundai seem to be having difficulties getting the cars into the country, so maybe it will level out after a couple of months. But since they say they sold 400 in January and only 170 have actually changed hands, they may have difficulty keeping up with demand.

    Drops in sales from the likes of BYD may have more to do with what's available and what's on the way than anything negative about BYD. More than 50 new EV models coming this year.



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