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2025 Irish EV Sales

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  • #182
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,809 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    EDIT: Didn't realise Mad_Lad was threadbanned, comment removed, apologies



  • #183
    Ev fan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭Ev fan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123178452#Comment_123178452

    I refer you to liamog's comment also on Feb 16.



  • #184
    Marcusm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123173581#Comment_123173581

    I do but it’s a 100L tank so probably not what you were thinking about!



  • #185
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,809 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123182347#Comment_123182347

    That's impressive, most large vans have a 90L tank. A car with a 100L tank is completely pointless for the vast majority of people



  • #186
    joe1303l
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,448 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123183134#Comment_123183134

    I had a 90L tank years ago in a D3 model A8 TDI. It was super convenient. Stock up on diesel whenever I found it at a good price. Never had to refuel at an inconvenient time and nearly 1100Km possible on a tank.



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  • #187
    Exiled Rebel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    I expect Inster and Tesla (although I expect the latter to underwhelm for other reasons) will continue to push EV figures to record highs in February and March. Supposedly 400 insters sold as of a couple of weeks ago which were not included in January's numbers.

    Just watch the EV narrative change in the media come March.



  • #188
    MojoMaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,332 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Judging by the mood and the declared buying intentions of many posters on this forum, there is decent demand for new Tesla vehicles, even with all that is going on.



  • #189
    sk8board
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭sk8board


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123185736#Comment_123185736

    Don’t read much into it. There’s no advertising for tesla, so 100% of Tesla buyers are online, it’s totally disproportionate. How many of the thousands of Irish Toyota Yaris Cross buyers are in the “Yaris cross waiting room” thread? (obviously there’s no such thread :) ).


    We saw it back in 2017-2019 when the m3 delivery thread would make you think there was a tsunami of deposit holders for model 3’s for 2020 …….. and actually there were 400 deliveries in the whole first half of 2020, less than 1% of car buying decisions in that year. Effectively they were all on the thread.

    EV sales will increase in volume this year, in real terms, but marketshare is what’s important, and 2023’s marketshare of 18% is very unlikely to be beaten, but will be next year.



  • #190
    sk8board
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭sk8board


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123185204#Comment_123185204

    Don’t get hung up on volumes - it’s marketshare that matters if we’re to move the national fleet of 2.5m vehicles towards EV.

    Every month people go nuts over media coverage of EV numbers - their “EV narritive” is looking at EV adoption, and how it gets there - not real volumes, which will always go up and down.


    the only volumes that’ll be reported this year will be Tesla, if the Jan trend continues - and that’s reported simply because its geopolitical.



  • #191
    PaulRyan97
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭PaulRyan97


    Unusual that there's been no publication of the February car sales today, SIMI usually don't miss it.



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  • #192
    CMOTDibbler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,830 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123228821#Comment_123228821

    Probably out tomorrow. January's figures weren't out until the Tuesday after the month end.



  • #193
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,414 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123228821#Comment_123228821

    normally the second day. Especially when the change over happens over the weekend. It was the same for January.

    The “we are working on them logo” will be there for a few hours.



  • #194
    PaulRyan97
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭PaulRyan97


    That was because the first day they would normally be published in February was a bank holiday. This is decidedly not normal.



  • #195
    CMOTDibbler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,830 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    Well they're definitely working on them, so we can ease off on the panic.

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  • #196
    PaulRyan97
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭PaulRyan97


    I mean it's obviously a conspiracy. That's what I'm getting at.



  • #197
    CMOTDibbler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,830 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123229067#Comment_123229067

    I know, just don't tell @vimalandrew.



  • #198
    Marcusm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123183134#Comment_123183134

    maybe it’s only 90L although I am sure ei’ve bought more than 90L at a time. Prior car/SUV was definitely 100L but based on 8-16mpg, it didn’t get me that far.



  • #199
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,328 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123229062#Comment_123229062

    Nothing says top notch web design when you need to take down the site to publish new content

    I bet there's just a giant CSV file powering the site and someone has to take the site down to update it

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • #200
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,414 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    @MarkN

    You got some inside scoop on the Feb stats?

    IMG_0811.jpeg


  • #201
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,414 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Top 5 selling EV cars in Feb.

    1. Tesla Model 3
    2. Kia EV3
    3. Hyundai Inster
    4. VW ID4
    5. Kia EV6
    IMG_0812.jpeg IMG_0813.jpeg IMG_0814.jpeg IMG_0815.jpeg IMG_0816.jpeg


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  • #202
    sk8board
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭sk8board


    Jan and Feb combined:

    Tesla had their delivery on model 3’s for Feb, they’re still down in 21st of the top selling marques, but up year on year by about 100 cars. The Y sales are nowhere, but not much change from last year due to delivery schedules out of sync with the Irish market.

    EV marketshare is at 15%, up from 12% this time last year.

    This big change this year is the plug-in’s, they’re also 15% market share, up from 9% last year

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    Marketshare by propulsion:

    IMG_7309.jpeg

    Top 20 selling vehicles in 2025

    image.png

    top 20 selling BEVs, year to date:

    7 of them weren’t on sale here last year, so it’s great to see more choice.

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  • #203
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 6,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Interesting that we're now seeing market share for Jan+Feb in 2025 that's higher than the market share for the same period in 2023. There were so many people last year who made wild claims that Irish car usage was so different to the rest of Europe and that 2024 was the year people finally woke up to the truth.

    Or it's the new fleet emission standard that kicked in on January 1st, meaning that manufacturers now have a reason to increase EV sales again (which has always been my theory)



  • #204
    sk8board
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭sk8board


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123230143#Comment_123230143

    this has always been the case, since the fleet emissions were introduced - the only way to sell EVs is to have choice and price. That wasn’t there until last year when prices started dropping, and now this year we have much more choice.



  • #205
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 6,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123230154#Comment_123230154

    There were more choices available and better prices in 2024 than 2023, EV sales market share went down.

    It was also the last year of the old emissions targets, every manufacturer was pretty much in compliance with those. I think people have given far too much credit to consumer choice when buying a new car. They miss the fact that we don't just buy cars, we are sold them via a combination of sales reps incentives and financials.

    The typical requirements for using a car in Ireland haven't significantly changed in the last 12 months, what has changed is the incentives for a given manufacturer to get you into an EV instead of sweating the assets from previous investment in ICE manufacturing.



  • #206
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,465 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Most people don't even look at things like TCO, depreciation, even overall cost. What people look at is the monthly payment and the cost to change (ie do I need to top up my last PCP car to move to a new one).

    What they change into is often affected (a lot) by what the salesman has in store. Obviously car folks (and I include EV devotees too) are different.

    The man on the street is influenced by jim in the pub, john the taxi man, and an article on RTE news or the irish times. Not by data and rationale.

    This is why regulations have to be part of a change to EV. Anyone who bought a new EV in 2021-2023 and looking to change now likely won't have seen much TCO savings over the period, due to the prices being higher and depreciating significantly till then.



  • #207
    Buddy Bubs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,419 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    4 cars in particular will push EVs well up the charts later in the year - Inster, Renault 5, EV3, Elroq - all decent value propositions

    Saw a lovely white EV3 in very heavy traffic this morning on N4 (anyone that was in it will know!) and it was side by side with me for a long time and its a really good looking car on the road. Could have been a relatively expensive high spec one by the look of it but it was really lovely.



  • #208
    GavMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭GavMan


    When will we be seeing headlines and media segments about the arse falling out of the diesel market?



  • #209
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,019 ✭✭✭✭josip


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123230291#Comment_123230291

    Unfortunately my arse will have fallen out of me long before the arse falls out of the diesel market.

    https://www.seai.ie/data-and-insights/seai-statistics/annual-energy-data/energy-demand/transport

    Freight and Agriculture (not depicted here) mean that there will be a significant amount of diesel used for the next 50 years

    image.png

    but even private use will take 10-15 more years to decline to negligible levels.

    image.png

    and although reducing diesels will improve air quality, replacing them with petrols/PHEVs powered mainly by petrol, it's going to have no impact on AGW. But that's not a concern for many I fear and a topic for a different thread anyway.



  • #210
    creedp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭creedp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123230291#Comment_123230291

    It's now on a par with the rest of Europe so more like reaching It's normal share following on from a really successful Govt intervention in the motor vehicle market in 2008



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  • #211
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,809 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123230093#Comment_123230093

    Interesting, seems Musk isn't putting Irish buyers off as much as he's putting off other European drivers.

    Not massively relevant until next months figures as Tesla operate to end of quarter sales figures but that's 2 months of year-on-year growth in the Irish market that I wasn't expecting

    Not sure if many people heard the voxpop yesterday on Newstalk with Ciaran Cuddihy. Tesla drivers were asked if they were put off their purchase because of Musk, overwhelmingly the answer was "no"



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