Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

To say that Zelensky made a rod for his own back is blaming the victim for provoking the aggressor, and that's not how we do things in civil society. Neither the US President nor their Vice President should be making baseless unfounded remarks which require pushback, and if they do make these remarks, they should accept polite correction gracefully. It just shows how far the standard falls with Trump that it's in any way normal to think Zelensky did something wrong.

Never thought I'd be so impressed with the Brits and The King but credit where credit is due, fair play.

Europe needs to step up to the plate and assure Ukraine of all of the support they need. It is paramount that Trump and Putin lose out here.

Why do you say they haven't thought the deal through? What points to that?

Opinion or fact?

All the evidence suggests otherwise

That's not going to work out to well considering Vance is completely ignorant to the geo political climate outside of his own border. The comment yesterday about seeing "videos" was absolutely laughable. He's knowledge is no better than any other nut job you would meet in a pub who thinks he knows everything because he follows some right wing grifter on twitter.

Why do American universities keep getting held in such high regard considering they consistently churn out people like him? I'm not just picking on the right here. Look at some of the scary videos of simple questions being asked on various campuses across America to see how absolutely ignorant so many third level students are in America.

I'm no fan of Starmer, but the difference in statecraft was exemplary. Starmer put on a good show yesterday showing the dumb 5 year olds in the Oval Office and their stupid, sycophantic, MAGA fans what a diplomatic meeting between world leaders is supposed to look like.

They're are just bullies who didn't like someone even questioning them in their own backyard.

Add in their love-in for Russia, and it was all definitely planned.

There was only real man there yesterday. Zelensky is leading a country at war against the 'might' of Russia. The other two wouldn't last two mins in Zelenskys job. Trump is obese and a pensioner. Vance is a coward and bully, ultra religious too which are a creepy cult. I suspect we'll hear a few stories about him down the line .

It's understandable that a lot of people have no interest in far away places and will question the money spent but electing Trump has potential for serious consequences for all of us and having America cosying up to Putin will cause problems.His behaviour not just yesterday is not the behaviour of a rational person and his devotees are the same .What happens in Ukraine does effect us when you see the number of them here and all that entails .

Answer the question I asked you previously first. I’m not interested in being continually challenged on my posts without something coming in return - thanks

Why is everyone so obsessed with pushing an unwinnable war and by thinking the only way to support Ukraine is continuing this. The US paid hundreds of billions of dollars to delay realising the war was never winnable. Finally the warmongers have been pushed out. But now Ukraine is ruins and so many dead, and so many of their population lost. A cease fire now is a face saving exercise to acknowledge defeat.

I'm sure Trump is loving Starmer and Europe stepping up to fund this going forward even though he knows they are nothing without the US.

Except the US hasn't paid hundreds of billions, if you accept that lie, Lord knows what other lies you base your uninformed opinion on.