US declassification of the biggies

A lot of conspiracy theorists are going to be very disappointed.

It hasn't been established that the conspiracy version of how the world operates has any truth to it. Eg you're painting USAID as nefarious in spite of the fact that all the stories that they have broken in relation to it amount to misrepresentations by the current administration.

To pick out one of your conspiracies. Nothing has proven to be true in relation to Ukraine conspiracy theories. Most of the world agrees Russia was the aggressor.

In terms of has USAID made the US richer, not necessarily but that's not it's intended purpose. That's like complaining that Irish peacekeeping or international aid hasn't made us richer. It might not make us richer but it's improved our political reputation. To use an example, some of the things Musk has hit include sexual health clinics in African nations. But to be celebrated apparently.

But I can guarantee you, this administration will engage in lots of corruption as his previous admin did. They won't reveal any conspiracies though.

It is strange how some people will dismiss evidence based on the fact that they spend their whole lives mistrusting alternative news sources.

A lot of Americans find offensive the fact that the spending has gone unchecked and that the money that has been given out around the world never reaches them when natural disasters occur in their country.

In reality, USAID is a covert deep state agency created for the purpose of doing things that the deep state does not want the world to know.

As it turns out, USAID was funding judges, the legal system, and governments in hundreds of countries around the world. This was a revelation. To receive funding, USAID had to approve the employees hired and then adhere to a set of standards approved by the state department. These grants and funding bought a lot of this so-called free press media into not discussing anything they didn't agree to discuss.

There is a long story circulating about this topic. The USAID is involved in a great deal of Iran contra-related type activity and earthquake potential that threatens US national security for the next decade.

Due to the amount of information to be divulged on the topic, it take too long

To your post. A lot of Trump's ferocity was directed toward the USAID-owned media such as CNN, BBC, and others when the Russian collusion election controversy was in the news. The state department and deep state disliked Trump's vision for Ukraine and had a hostile relationship with him. He waited until he was able to dismantle the deep state that attempted to imprison him. The war that USAID was waging against Trump will now be felt by Ukraine.

In regards to the claim that the world views Russia as the aggressor, I think we need to be more specific, since most countries outside of Europe still do business with them. It is a contentious issue in America. The reality is that most people understand that nobody else would accept a foreign army on their border, yet people in some countries believe Russia should do it because it must. For decades, this deep state logic fuelled wars in the world. The views of the Russians here may seem foreign to you, but they are primarily concerned with security.

When USAID funded the Atlantic Council to quarantine these topics online, we were never going to be able to get openness around conspiracy topics

It is important to note that Trump, no matter what you say about him, has an open mind and wants people to know what is going on. In some cases, people prefer to keep their secret world under wraps in order to sleep in comfort. Rather than living in a constructed world, it is better to live in reality.

As the world mindset begins to change, some people will resist because they don't see the bigger picture that peace between Russia and United States is better for humanity than war. There is no amount of money or arms that will help Ukraine win. Sadly, those who think they know more than Trump are not seeing the bigger picture of what will happen if this war continues.

Conspiracy openings are just another way of awakening the world that war and dirty dealings have no place in our future. Keep the world ignorant about events such as UFOs, COVID, 9/11, JFK, and others, and you will never be able to have a better world. Trump and others who advocate this position are on the right track.

Not sure where to start with all this

USAID works like a charity, e.g. it gave money to the charitable arm of the BBC, BBC Media Action (which is completely independent from the BBC) to support journalists and training in other countries

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/news-outlets-reject-trump-accusations-usaid-media-payoff-2025-02-07/

"Alternative news" is another name for counter-factual information.

Folks I've moved the posts about mainstream journalism, to trust or not, to another thread. It can be found here. They're off topic, but there seems to be a decent enough discussion on it so didn't want to simply delete them.

This thread is about declassification of US Files, please keep on topic.

Thanks

HS

Supposedly the files are to be released, but when the official GOP account linked them - and it was a Rickroll. They kept the link up for hours before taking it down.

It's such a clown-show

It was only a week or so ago that Kash Patel was announced as FBi director. A week won't clean house. Remember, the deep state of the FBI, when it comes to protecting information from coming out, will always try to obstruct it as much as possible. There is already an established fact that the NY FBI office did not hand over all Epstein files to Bondi's DOJ office. Attorney general Bondi wrote in a tweet that she was frustrated with the New York office's obstruction of the Epstein files. In general, what we are seeing here is a war between the old guard at the FBI who seem to want to keep Epstein's secrets hidden from the public and the new administration who seem to want to come out with the truth. Truth can, of course, be sanitized in order to conceal ugly truths from view. It's clear Epstein has links to Israel and probably others from the public record.

As a result, it is somewhat debatable whether the Trump administration will go to great lengths to disclose Epstein's deeper ties to honey pot operations that he was involved in when he worked for it. There may also be people involved who have helped the republican party and democratic party financially. A full disclosure rocks the boat. I don't think anybody doubts that Epstein and his mistress were not the only actors in this long decades long affair, so no matter what comes out now, it doesn't change that fact.

Ultimately, what the Epstein affair has just highlighted is that there is still an undercurrent of child sex rings in the world with global ramifications, and a number of wealthy and famous people are involved in them. A shady and shadowy side of global politics that nobody wants to investigate deeper than the surface appearance of it all.

Regardless, if you believe the narrative of this PR release, it was just the beginning according to Bondi...let's wait and see what they come up with in the months ahead. The Epstein case goes beyond him. It would be astonishing if they exposed one of the allies in the worst possible terms. .. I doubt it

It's an aid organisation, a vast one, that has had some isolated issues (including several based on complaints from autocratic regimes)

The vast majority of it's work has been beneficial. MAGA see it as money flowing out the country, they aren't really into the whole principled helping of other countries - so it's seen as a waste by them. To validate shutting a lot of it down they exaggerated some of the issues and created a fair bit of innuendo themselves.

They are declassifying info as part of their populist agenda - but as we can see from the Epstein files they aren't releasing them properly.

A lot of it is projection.

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HS

James Dennehy was removed as top FBI official in New York yesterday. Supposedly involved in Jan 6th investigation and not releasing esptein files. Looks like promises were kept to remove officials who were working to stop transparency from operating. My last claim still stands, don't expect much evidence about esptein intelligence background. The issue of changing United States' relations with Israel is very hot and would have very significant implications. Inside the FBI, a purge is underway.

Correct.

@Cheerful S I'm guaranteeing you that no conspiracy will be revealed when these files get released.

Biden's son having a substance abuse problem is more just tragic and likely heavily influenced by the childhood tragedy that hit the entire family. Implying that there were minors in the videos is a pretty big jump btw... So nope, it's not remotely similar to Epstein. In relation to Joe Biden, the Republicans opened multiple investigations into him and never exposed actual corruption.

In relation to January 6th, the FBI went after people who attempted an insurrection. Not going after them would be frankly bizarre.

Meanwhile Trump is twice impeached, triggered an insurrection and previously attempted to extort Zelensky. He's appointed people who are accused of covering up child sexual abuse(Linda McMahon and her husband is accused of trafficking), he appointed a rapist in the form of Hegseth and failed to appoint a sex trafficker as Attorney General and RFK who both used heroin and is rumoured to have dealt it. (He also has a history of blending live animals) Meanwhile you're saying they have different views and ignoring how they're far worse than Hunter who was never in any cabinet. I guess they have different views but they're scum of the earth. But they're good cause they believe in conspiracy theories?

If Biden had an unelected billionaire that was making policy decisions, this would have been the odd scenario where the press and conspiracy theorists would largely be in agreement. But since it's in an administration that relies heavily on pushing conspiracy theories, it tends to get praised by both maga crowds and standard conspiracy theorists. Promise some file releases and the in your face conspiracies simply get ignored.