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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭strathspey




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    Finland was mentioned higher up

    That’s a country not much bigger than Ireland population wise but smaller GDP



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,794 ✭✭✭yagan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭Freight bandit


    Are Ukraine still winning?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭OrangeBadger


    Black woman in the white house or Bottom for Putin hmmmm time to live up those American cheeks



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,062 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Are Russia still losing?

    Define winning or losing - Britain was in the winning side in WW2 , but it definitely lost a lot during the war ,

    The US certainly won , the soviet union won but lost a staggering amount,

    France ,lost , but regained it's territory ..

    Ukraine won't come out better than the day it was invaded - but can still regain some or all of its territories -

    Russia may gain territory - may not - but it has lost massively, manpower that it can't afford

    Weapons stock piles that it didn't expect to lose and treasure it could have used much better elsewhere.. Russia has definitely lost - as has Ukraine

    Its the degrees of loss and the spin that are still in play ..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,710 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Trump and Vance waking up seeing the media reaction

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,710 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Ukraine needs to cut all ties with US, and adapt to the situation. Russia and their donkey Lada army are there for the taking.

    Clearly Putin has Trump tapes of him in compromising situations, it's what Russia does, invite big names to Moscow, wine and dine them, give them all they desire, and capture it all on secret camera's in the hope the person becomes important one day

    Trump fell for it hook line and sinker in 1987, the promise of building a Trump tower in Moscow, all a ruse to get him over there where they set his trap, and he fell in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,794 ✭✭✭yagan


    The only thing war decides is who's left.

    Russia is now reduced to using donkeys at the front while Ukraine continues to evolve and expand its domestically produced drone capabilities to the point where drones will become a moving wall of death.

    My only pity is for the donkeys.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,710 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    King Charles should un-invite Trump after that display. Europe's leaders think the way to handle Trump is to lavish him with gifts and praise, I think they should ignore him now, cut him off.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,794 ✭✭✭yagan


    I think everyone knows that Trump is a cult, and not representative of the whole US. There's plenty of ex US service personal now fighting alongside Ukranians on the front. The only notable exception being Steven Seagal who's a real Putin fanatic.

    Even the guy arrested for plotting to kill Trump on the golf course had been a Trump supporter the first term. The young man who nearly succeeded a card carrying republican.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,063 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    The filth stopped assistance to repair Ukraine's power sector yesterday, even before the meeting, it's all a pre-planned charade - it was always about doing Putin's bidding of cutting aid, but to do that you have to set up Ukraine and Zelensky and try and make them look bad as justification first.

    The whole mineral deal being randomly thrown into the middle of a so called peace deal - something weird and so stupidly outrageous it had to be rejected - was part of that. Yesterday was the planned coup de gras.

    I don't know why people are treating the allegations that Krasnov is actually an Orc agent as a sort of joke instead of a deadly serious matter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,511 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    I read an article last year on Ukraine arming themselves either with Nukes or some sort of midterm dirt bomb to try and guarantee their safety if the world turned their back on them again.

    The last 2 lines of the article stuck with me and are even more relevant given the events of the last 24 hours.

    There is a real danger here that the world would be foolish to ignore. If Ukraine one day faces the choice between national survival and its eradication by advancing Russian forces, what might it choose?

    You don’t have to be a geopolitical expert to understand that Ukraine may refuse to go quietly into that good night of vanishing nations.

    History is now gazing at Macron and Starmer.

    It's their time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,063 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Nuclear weapons are an absolute must, now that the Orcs have control of the US.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭TokTik


    So on the one the one hand, if Ukraine ditch the US, Russia (and its lada army) is there for the taking.


    On the other, Europe has to back Ukraine or Russia will attempt to push into Europe.

    Schroedingers Russia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,446 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Thats not what the post you're quoting says at all..?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,794 ✭✭✭yagan


    I keep these threats of advancing Russia, yet what we're increasingly seeing is alcoholics guys in their 50s and 60s being sent to the front with donkeys. Just as their soviet era stock has been eroded so too has its manpower.

    The number priority of Ukraine is to lose as few as possible, strategic withdrawals rather than troops losses, but ultimately the Russian losses have continued on upward trajectory.

    Trump was as unhinged towards Zelensky as much as Putin needs a ceasefire. But even if Putin got his pause, where are his new troops going to come from as the nearly million who fled Russia after the special operation began were mostly young males of military service age.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    But why aren't there thousands, of the good Americans, condemning Trump & offering support for Ukraine ? We need a new European force made up of a few countries to help Ukraine & ideally put troops inside the Country. Show Putin that there is no chance of winning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,511 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


     yet what we're increasingly seeing is alcoholics guys in their 50s and 60s being sent to the front with donkeys.

    Exactly. It suits Putin to have a pause.

    It is now chess not checkers.

    He will come again, let that be 1 year 3 years or 5.

    Ukraine have utterly humiliated him and turned his country into a new North Korea.

    Of course Trump is trying his best to reverse that.

    But make no mistake Putin will not respect any peace deal or cease fire.

    Anyone who thinks otherwise has not being paying attention.

    The reason Trump and his ghouls are calling Zelenskyy a dictator is they want elections in Ukraine because they know full well the Russians will interfere with it.

    Again, just in case hasn't been paying attention for the last decade. The Kremlin have a Puppet in the Whitehouse.

    It was only imaginable in movies up until now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,794 ✭✭✭yagan


    Not everyone voted for Trump. Tesla protests are happening across the US too.

    Bluesky has really taken off as alternative to the Trump infested X. Even some Trump voters are being fired from their governments jobs by DOGE.

    If things were terse domestically in the USA during his first term it's going to get a lot worse when the next George Floyd happens and Trump will say they brought it on themselves.

    We're watching the USA in meltdown.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,868 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Putin needs a ceasefire.

    Doesn't seem to me to be acting like a leader who does, not offering even the most cosmetic of concessions to facilitate a Trump-led 'peace deal'. Looks to me to be keen to keep pushing forward on the battlefield…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,794 ✭✭✭yagan


    I get that he'll try to "come again" in a few years, but with what, and with who?

    The war and the flight of youngest and ablest Russians into exile is only driving down the birth rate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭TokTik


    Wait til he sees Ukraines “wall of death” drones or something…….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,794 ✭✭✭yagan


    It was always very tacky, spraying Z on their Soviet era stock like a gang tag.

    The old axiom is war happens when the risk of not going to war is greater than the risk of war itself. Putin must have felt so paranoid about losing control over Russia that he needed a special operation to stay on top.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,710 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    If Trump was President during World War 2, we'd all be speaking German



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,818 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    sociopaths/narcissists lack the self awareness and empathy to think that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,355 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    In reality though just as always zelensky needs to continue the humble routine and take the bullying from these wimps. Whatever saves lives. He needs to at least drag this out as long as possible in the hope of some event that for es Trump to commit to Ukraine. Burning bridges won't help him no matter how justified. We've all been there, exiting a job, where we could destroy people and be justified but there's no tangible pay off except for our own pride. Zelensky has shown that he is willing to sacrifice personal pride for the sake of his people, that he what makes him an actual leader and not some gangster born with a silver spoon in his mouth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    On Telegraphs Ukraine the Latest podcast they made an interesting point

    “Are you sure you will get software updates for your F35s” (addressed to European countries)

    I don’t think it sunk in yet, be interesting what happens to stocks on Monday but Trump just dealt a massive blow to US defence industries who would need external orders especially as US military itself is facing cuts with likes of Musk loudly criticising programs like F35



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Addmagnet


    I get that he'll try to "come again" in a few years, but with what, and with who?

    Look to the nations that vote with Russia in UN resolutions and the like, or the ones who stay silent. Especially the economically very poor nations. If Putin flatters & bribes them, and offers them a cut of the proceeds, they may also feel it's in their interests to provide practical military support in any future Special Military Operations.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,701 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    So Zelenskyy is in the UK with Starmer (was meant to be tomorrow) and the rest of Europe coming tomorrow

    Now more than ever we need to be fully behind Zelenskyy and tomorrow should be the start of rebuilding Europe's defense.

    No more relying on America and infact we should start isolating Trump

    Trumps puts 25% tariffs in Europe, Europe does 30%

    No more sitting in the middle for Starmer, pick a side.



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