Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 06/06/25

Just watched the video. Fml. Wtf is going on. Embarrassing

Agreed, I’m no crazy fan of MM but thank god he’s going and not Simple Simon.

Keep talking about golf, how well Doonbeg is looking, hopefully the whole LIV/PGA division gets sorted, what great friends the Irish and US are, how handy Shannon is for refuelling etc etc

…hand over the shamrock and get tf out of there.

not unusual for this administration. They’re a double act of low-life

Looked very much like a planned ambush,

It smacked of a weak manager bringing along a side kick with the intention of dressing down an employee but failing miserably as neither were informed enough or had the intellect or experience to execute the plan.

Zelenskyy did okay in a surreal environment but his best weapon in response misinformed ignorance was to respond with questions.

I keep thinking that nothing should come as a surprise with Trump but yesterday did surprise me and I was shocked to see and hear the carry on in the oval office .I have never been to the states but generally had a positive view of the country and to see what has happened to the country is pretty sad .Unfortunately most of his voters care little about Ukraine,Gaza etc so the only way things might go against him over the next couple of years is if those same voters feel a serious pinch in their pockets but that could take time .Dangerous times ahead I feel .

yeah, the similar responses from Graham and little Marco afterwards suggest this

I think the reason for it all is that Trump is a business man not a politician.

He sees the mineral wealth in Ukraine and wants to have a piece of it for the US, as payment for support for the last few years being his alleged reason, but in reality he's just a man who sees everything as a commodity to buy and sell.

Same with Gaza. If one was to take the whole political thing out of it (which one obviously can't) you could see the logic of turning a underdeveloped stretch of beach side land into a huge property development opportunity.

Same with Panama, he wants lower costs for US shipping using it.

Same with the DOGE, it's all about cost savings.

He's a business man, hence the comments on Zelensky not wearing a suit. In Trump's world you come to a business meeting in a suit, and in Trump's world yesterday was first and foremost a business meeting.

And all this rankles the s**t out of the established political world because in their eyes it is not the way things are supposed to be done.

For years people here on boards have been saying that Michael O'Leary should be minister for this that and the other.

He'd sort out the waste etc in Irish government and civil service.

If he was then we would be getting our very own mini Irish version of Trump.

NOb They were TRYING to shame him and FAILED.

Don't allow something like that frame your view of America or Americans.

It's a big place and some parts are very different from one another, and the people are different, and I'd argue for the most part very nice and friendly.

You say that it's unfortunate that most of the voters care little about Ukraine or Gaza.

Why should they, they are conflicts a world away.

I've a newsflash for you, most Irish voters don't care about them either.

I have absolutely no idea how or why, but is is beyond any doubt now the Kremlin have a puppet in the Whitehouse.

Not only is this stooge shredding American democracy and dismantling the guard rails he is legitimising a mass murdering despot and driving unrepairable wedges into long established Allies.

Putin himself could not be more destructive this fast if he was in the Whitehouse.

I don't have a lot of faith in either Macron or Starmer but Europe and by extension the world need them now, this is a watershed moment in our history, entertaining these predatory stooges should no longer be tolerated.

Trump will be waking up later to some new enemies at home, I’m sure. Some of whom were more than willing to let the invade-Greenland-holiday-resort-Gaza business slide, but for some this is on a whole other level, undermining what is to be American. Interesting too that his very prominent vocal support across social media has gone quiet..

War, Churchill, 1942, White House … where Suit?

My advice to MM when he “meets” Trump is as follows :-

(1) LISTEN to what he and Vance is saying

(2) his I only response to anything Trump/Vance says is. ‘I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING’

(3) and if he wants to add to no 2 above he can say “ I hear what you are saying and we can discuss that in our - behind doors - meeting later on. “

(4) another version of no 3 could be “ I hear what you are saying but we in Ireland would see it as a bit more complex than that”

Wouldn't be kowtowing to either of them to be honest.

Anyway, Martin like him or loath him would be an elite level politician compared to those 2 pound shop mob bosses.

I reckon he doesn't need our advice.