Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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Zelenskyy’s attire was your biggest takeaway from that shambles, so stop trying to row back and just own it ffs. Embarrassing whataboutery nonsense from you.

He didn't say thank you 70 kajillion times, according to Vance.

The “exchange”/ambush of Zelenskyy live on TV reminded me of a Soprano’s episode where they have a “sit down”.

All that was missing from Trump/Vance statements was ending them with “boy”. It looked like Zelenskyy was going to break down in tears at one stage. It was really an unfair debate, no Ukrainian translator. For instance., Zelenskyy did not seem to understand Trump’s “cards” reference.

You are correct Zelenskyy looks screwed now and backed the wrong horse in the American election. Zelenskyy has not abandoned Ukraine though. He could easily have set up in exile at a safe distance.

Trump is playing the old game ,as in real estate, no matter what offers you have shoot them down and walk away, He made a show tonight for his TV voters ,but I'd say zalensky will be back in the white house tomorrow to seal the deal .

Stanning for Israel and now stanning for trump. On brand anyway, Putin next?

I wonder did Trump instruct Vance to be more vocal at these sitdown things after getting corrected by Macron there the last day and having to sit there with nothing to say in response? With Vance butting in, it buys Trump the time to think of his next bullish thing.

You are correct Zelenskyy looks screwed now and backed the wrong horse in the American election. Zelenskyy has not abandoned Ukraine though. He could easily have set up in exile at a safe distance.

Hasn't abandoned Ukraine in fairness to him but totally agree he is screwed over backing the 'wrong horse' in the election.

The only outcome to settle this war as far as I can see is for an independent state(s)/republics of Donetsk, Luhansk and Crimea along with a commitment from NATO and Ukraine to never seek membership of said organisation. These regions will serve as a new buffer zone between NATO and Russia. The US has been publicly seeking exploration rights in remaining Ukranian territories with EU Agri conglomerates, there is probably enough value in that to send 'UN backed' peacekeepers into the rest of Ukraine while this gets scaled up.

Is there any other way this can go?

Pigeon holers love to pigeon hole? Didn't work out well for GW Bush, you're either with us or against us.

Sometimes you have just got to concede that occasionally/now-and-again the other side have some good policies.

A profoundly shocking, distressing, disturbing evening. Checks and balances? RIP America.

[Quote] "For some reason every Irish person obsessed with immigration is pro Trump and hates Zelensky"

Being unemployed gives them a lot of free time for tiktok

Republicans being asked who started the war…. they can't even answer that question without deflecting.

It's a cult, plain and simple. If Trump told them the earth is flat, they would tow the line.

I notice some right wing commentators and politicians in the UK have condemned Trump this evening.

Farage is 100% a Russian asset though. It's long been rumoured that he and his Brexit Party / Reform mates have some very dodgy links to Russian money.

I went to a conservative forum to try and understand how people could support Trump's actions today

Besides the extraordinary amount of ignorance on display, the key theme was that they thought Zelensky "wants war", and wants "American boots on the ground" and that Trump just wants peace

Okay but Trump has threatened to annex or invade Greenland, Panama, Canada

Their "best" rationalisations are completely contradictory. They are reaching the very end of what's possible to reason

Even Boards most pro-Trump and pro-Putin posters are struggling with this and these are mental gymnasts of the highest order

People are just flabberghasted, crazy crazy stuff.

Trump is teeing up a nuclear war where himself and Putin obliterate Europe. Should be good craic.