General Premier League Thread 2024-25

Hard to see Arsenal getting a positive result tonight, Sterling will most likely be in the starting line up and they have no striker.

A big week coming up for Villa, they have a perceived “soft” draw in the Champions League, but Brugge can’t be underestimated. I’ve been impressed from what I saw of them in the CL so far.

If Villa don’t get past them, it could have a massive know on effect on the remainder of their year.

"In some ways, Liverpool might have needed fresh energy from a new manager. United under Ferguson, however, had absolutely no such need."

Didn't exactly turn out spectacularly well for United, mind.

They need 14 points from the last 11 games to hit 50pts

Amazingly, since promotion they have finished every single season with a points total in the 40's:

13/14 - 45pts

14/15 - 48pts

15/16 - 42pts

16/17 - 41pts

17/18 - 44pts

18/19 - 49pts

19/20 - 43pts

20/21 - 44pts

21/22 - 48pts

22/23 - 45pts

23/24 - 49pts

24/25……36pts with 11 to play….


Incredible consistency considering their manager list during this time was:

Ian Holloway, Keith Millen, Tony Pulis, Keith Millen, Neil Warnock, Keith Millen, Alan Pardew, Sam Allardyce, Frank de Boer, Roy Hodgson, Patrick Vieira, Paddy McCarthy, Roy Hodgson, Paddy McCarthy…

Can Oliver Glasner get to 50pts? It's all to play for, who said the league is over already??

That youngest son has brought a great shame to your family 🤣

No the shame of the family was that the other son and his family are all Man City supporters. 😂

But at the same time saying this team got 90 points so would beat this team who got 85 points 20 years ago doesn't make sense. Saying Liverpool would have won titles in the 90s/00s isn't comparing like for like.

Point totals work because they are measured against the same opposition. Everyone plays everyone home and away, at the end you tally up the points and the club with the most wins.

You wouldn't look at Seria A and see Inter or Juve on 95 points and say "oh they are a better team than the PL winner because they got more points". It doesn't work because they did not beat the same opponents to win those points, they did not compete in the same competition.

It can work as a measure of improvement year on year but it is far less reliable as a measure of improvement if you compare a tally to 10/20 years ago.

The game has changed (for the better) and attacking players are far better protected now than they were 20 years ago. This leads to the better players being far more effective in games.

There's no real team in the PL who look to turn games into dog fights anymore - which is a positive and also helps better teams to win more games.

Every team now wants to be seen to be playing football. It's part of the reason why I think promoted clubs are finding it much tougher now to stay up. If you go toe to toe and try to play a better team on their terms you will lose more often than not.

Horrendous domestically for most of the season. Been sh*te since around January 2024. Managed to crawl over the line last season because Spurs collapsed also and nobody else found any consistency.

Unfortunately recruitment has been horrible and things haven’t improved much since.

Ok, let me rephrase — that was not the point I was making in the post you quoted, which was all in response to the fella saying second, even with a near perfect 97 points, is irrelevant as a managerial achievement.

As for the interpretation of someone else's post you screen-shotted, that's up to them to clarify i guess.

I think the original point is that there is a constant theme from some posters to devalue Klopp's achievements, yes, he "only" won 1 league title, but, he was up against a financially doped opponent, something unseen in English football, who also happened to have one of the best mangers of all time in Pep. Klopp brought Liverpool from a top 6 side to a side consistently challenging for the major honours, on a small budget when compared to other top sides in the league, City, United, Chelsea and even outspent by smaller sides. He also left Liverpool with a very strong squad which is now in a strong position to win the league.

Ferguson's achievements in the English game are unrivalled and very unlikely to be surpassed especially with the way the modern game is gone. No need to devalve Klopp's achievements when defending Fergerson!

Forest fans chanting "Mikel Arteta, it's happened again". When are Arsenal fans going to wake up and turn on Arteta?

VAR sending Dorgu off. Poor tackle.

That’s a bizarre decision to deny Salah a penalty. The referee didn’t blow for the free out until after Hall pulled Salah down.

Liverpool lead through Szoboszlai. Not the greatest of finishes, went through Burns' legs and Pope couldn't react in time to an effort that was fairly central.

I can’t believe you missed the part that they conceded a goal anyway before half time