Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

Mount street residents have contacted government officials about the IPAS centre that is due to accommodate 700 people. No one wants this in their area

”It’s dragging 50 and 60 year olds back to work”. Hasn’t the pension age increased in Ireland? I don’t see how you’re arguing that Ireland is better than Japan in that area

I have noticed recently that everything is excused by 'think of the economy'. No matter the problem, it's all for the benefit of the economy, especially immigration. We need immigration for the economy is the default answer.

Well what about society, is immigration good for society. We are told the economy is booming, yet society doesn't feel like it's booming.

Immigration is putting a strain on all sectors and tbh, if the whole thing is to create a society which can't sustain its citizens, then it's built on shaky ground and will eventually come tumbling down.

We know migration leads in places to a race to the bottom in terms of pay - cleaners are an obvious example.

An obvious example of what exactly?

One of the problems with native people who have an innate fear of migrants is they automatically assume migrants will be exclusively taking up a position as a cleaner or whatever other job they would describe as menial.

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that migrants coming to Ireland is a "race to the bottom" in terms of pay.

People who come and live in Ireland are also consumers and service users, as Irish people who migrate elsewhere.

We know migration is high-carbon in terms of the increasing number of flights - one of the fastest-growing sources of carbon today.

I imagine the tourist industry dwarfs that number by some amount.

But people can do something about that.

Forgo foreign trips and go on staycation, help the local economy more.

Everyone is a winner.

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2025/02/25/mount-street-community-group-threatens-legal-action-over-asylum-housing-proposal/

Something tells me rte will be less than enthusiastic to apply tags like "far right" to this kind of protest lol.

Likewise the man from up north will not be pointing his water cannons at this set.

I’m not prepared to take that 13% figure and call it case closed. Without seeing figures by area it’s meaningless. For example Drogheda town has one hotel that’s not taking bookings because it is being used to accommodate asylum seekers. That’s the biggest town in Ireland that has a hotel that’s blocked off. How many other towns and areas are like that?

Yes it’s the biggest town in Ireland. Yes one hotel is blocked off due to AS. That’s why I said I’d like to see figures by town

And to say it’s not a tourist town is just pure ignorance

What are you talking about? I edited my post two minutes after I posted it because of a typo. Not because of anything you said

Drogheda isn't somewhere people go on holidays for a week or 2 in summer. It's a place for tourists to newgrange to stay a night or 2. Last stop before airport. Golfers to stay a night or two to play the links courses.

The d hotel made a million profit the year before changing to asylum seekers.it wasn't close to what was on off compared to refugees. Drogheda now gets 500 asylum seekers in the town instead of tourists - what a boon to the town!

Go back and look at the timestamp of when I edited my typo. Literally 2 minutes after initially posting, 7.18 and 7.20

Now go and look at when you posted, 7.31. Your ‘nice edit’ comment was unnecessary

Economic growth, however, needs to be based on more than just adding people to the economy. That just leads to pressure on housing and services. GDP might go up but quality of life goes down.

Also surely it is good to have people in their fifties and sixties at work rather than being marginalised.