Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

Agreed 💯. no volume no profit doesn't matter what any of the rest of them say.

It's unreal what lads who can't turn a pound on there land will look to bleed the Tennant dry......

Thats if your getting enough grass into cows?

If you want milk you need go put in protein......... you can do both believe it or not. 18 %ration with a ufl of 1.15 22% here with a ufl of 1 (cows indoors need protein and that protein needs to be largely soya bean meal. Small bit or rapeseed distillers and even hulls is ok keeps everything in balance ...…but the cow has to have the ability to produce the milk before you go to the work of feeding her.

feeding 2 kg of soya and 2 kg of maize meal in the diet feeder with maize 82dmd silage and brewers grains

Feed to yield in parlour maxed at 9 kilo a day

Currently doing 33litrea at 4.88fat and 3.78 protein

I never buy rations only straights

disagree. I didn’t grow maize myself till 2 years ago. Was buying it it before. It’s piss easy. Few days work around sowing it and that’s it bar a weed spray till it’s in the pit. 25kg/hd going into ours plus 1.25 kgs soya and 4 kgs 18% in the parlour

The problem with maize is where do you grow it. Hardly a viable proposition to go and rent land at 400 to 500 an acre and you would certainly be off your nut to grow it on land that you can graze cows on.

Now we grow maize but it is on owned land that cows cannot graze.

Better to rent land at 400/ac or even 500 than pay 75/t for it to be grown on contract and you have the maps for it then

We grow it on rented land and it’s costing about 60/t to grow last year. If we had a better growing year and got higher tonnes it would have been less again

nah the addition of maize to the diet dramatically increases intakes of dm which increase both yields and percentages

I would have thought that too up to recently, my yearlings were on a 15% beef nut, and I ran out one day and fired in a kg/head of 19% dairy nut. It didn't hurt so I just kept doing it. The past two weeks,it's only every second day as they might be out soon. But they are like different heifers. Tall and shiny.

So was the beef nut shiite or was it the extra protein and calcium

TThere Is .... but it's madness ....its a race to the bottom and it's no small part of cop getting out of control.

Greed or lads not stopping for a second to weigh things up.

YYour Right on both thoughts I would say . The beef nut is poor (most of them are ) the soya is putting a shine on them and aids growth. Calcium is a problem if feeding males but i think you're only heifers. 17/18 %is what we use but if i could get a 16 with enough soya it would be plenty good for heifers

if they’ve good dams records for milk and solids in n calf to Ai or calving b soon an easy 2 k