General Premier League Thread 2024-25

City have dropped off the pace this season. Apart from that it's business as usual. Arsenal floundering, Chelsea inconsistent, Spurs poor, Utd poor.

City will be back unless they get docked points next season.

When was there a weak league, and why? Just because one team rose above them all at different stages (eg Liverpool in 70s & 80s, Man Utd in 90s and 00s, Arsenal at different stages, and City last 10 years) doesn’t mean the rest are weak. England have generally a very good record in European competitions over 50 years meaning, with a few exceptions, a true measure of the quality.

Until 5mins to go it looked full. Certainly at the start it would have been!

Atmosphere seemed flat though. Some boos early on and the Steven Gerrard taunt but after 5mins I could hear the away supporters more.

Poor Scouser Tommy, We Are Liverpool, Luis Diaz (Bella Ciao) song, Mo Salah song, You'll Never Walk Alone, We're Going to Win The League, Allez Allez Allez....all very audible on the Sky broadcast and that's just from memory

I could hear the Liverpool chants , seemed quiet from citee

It's Karen Carney for me.

it did last year, only dropped 5 points after going out in fa cup 3rd, already dropped that since that this year.could they do it again who knows.

only 2 points less than same week last year, win the last 12 & they match the 89 points. they won't though, but there's your magic

I think this is a pretty strong league. A of the top 10 or so teams are very good, a little inconsistent but as good as any teams in Europe. See how Villa are doing in the ECL, Fulham, Bournemouth, Even Brentford are good sides of a bit lacking in squad depth. Then the coaching, the likes of Emery, Silva, the guy at Bournemouth and even the Brighton guy (it's Sunday and I'm too lazy to check the names) are doing excellent jobs, and would get top jobs anywhere in Europe if the European clubs could afford them. Even Moysey and West Ham won the third their European trophy recently, English money is skewing things big time, and the league is very strong by any measure.

The EPL is a defacto European Super League in a lot of ways, few apart from the state funded clubs (either now or historical) can afford to compete with English clubs for players or coaches, and the squads in the top half of the Division are very strong, much stronger than the 90s and indeed the noughties.

They are actually 5 points worse off after game week no 26 compared to last year. They haven't hit the 90 point mark over the last couple of seasons and obviously can't do it this season. They had a chance last season to beat Aston Villa at home to go top and take command of the title race. And they failed miserably. Its great racking up the wins when you are second and chasing,the pressure isn't as intense. It is a different story when you are top at the business end of the season and someone breathing down your neck

Strong league weak league who cares, a title is a title. Liverpool will finally get to win it In front of their fans which was the real downside to the Covid season.

Yeah… That's just not the case though.

Teams go through cycles. You'll have seasons where there are more teams entering their "peak" in a cycle and you'll have seasons where more teams are ending a cycle or just getting started on new one.

Liverpool started their new cycle a season or 2 back with the midfield rebuild. City will start their new cycle this summer.

Arsenal need to go back to the drawing board. Focus on what works and improve what doesn't. Small tweaks needed but they need to build out their squad to handle injuries as much as anything.

The year Leicester won the league was a very famous example of an off season. Nobody was fit to challenge that season and the Leicester story covered a very poor season overall quality wise.

Liverpool were the only big club on it this season. It will be a fully deserved title but it is an off season for most of the rest.

The only team that could have stopped Liverpool is Liverpool. If they don't self implod or end up with a massive injury crisis then there is nobody else in the league who can go with them this season.

That became painfully obvious weeks ago

Don't get me wrong, City will be up near the top next year. But I just don't see them getting near those 90+ point tallies that put so many titles to bed.

I just can't see Pep building that resilient, unstoppable machine, when he's in his last year at the club. He'll have some of his old reliables fight it out for him, but all the new lads might not fully buy into him, when he's heading out the door come summer.

He extended to 2027 no?

your rationale for it being a Arsenal off season is something you believe? Arteta has being the manager since 2019 but he needs to work out what works and what doesn’t??

Hes needs to win this season or next season.

this is a fair assessment. Saka and odegaard are the pivot that arsenals true creativity comes from. It is unlucky for arsenal that they got injured. But the summer transfer window acquisitions haven’t worked out.