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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,798 ✭✭✭threeball


    The US army isn't staffed by intellectuals. It's full of hoo ra, bone heads who blindly follow the flag and are highly likely to be big fans of the mindless nonsense spouted by Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson or even that physcho Alex Jones.

    Have a look at the black hawk down documentary on netflix and you'll see the attitude, the way they treat people who aren't Americans, which was a carbon copy of Iraq and Afghanistan, and how it all falls down as a result.

    There's a reason the British were considered vastly superior at dealing with the general population in the middle east.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭bmc58




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,052 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


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    Accurate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,544 ✭✭✭techdiver




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,041 ✭✭✭golfball37


    Can the serious implications for the ordinary Irish citizen of Trump being Trump be expanded upon please?
    Lot of hand ringing about Americas place in the world changing - what will this do to mitigate against our own problems of homelessness and hospital waiting lists? And more importantly what can we do to stop him from making it worse.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭greenfield21


    If Trump can execute it would catastrophic for the Irish Economy, instead of fighting for the billionaires like previous presidents, Trump now seems to be fighting for the working class, he is going to try and stop US multinationals maximising their profits, which Ireland's economy is built on through favourable tax structures. It's going to be rough for us if he can deliver.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,609 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    All of these are possible, if not in motion:

    • Trump pushes back on Europe taxing US companies for global profits, encourages said companies to pay tax in the US, significantly hitting our economy
    • Trump pushes back on EU fines of US tech companies, singling out Ireland for it's receipt of $13bn from Apple
    • Trump raises tariffs on pharma imports, significantly hitting our economy
    • Trump forces through an unfavorable peace in Ukraine, causing further mass migration from Ukraine to Europe, placing more strain on services and social security
    • Trump imposes sanctions on countries that recognize ICC, ICJ rulings, that recognize the state of Palestine or that apply sanctions to the occupied territories

    That's before we get into the more mundane stuff of a possible global recession, war & political instability, responses to climate change...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,057 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Trump now seems to be fighting for the working class

    Trumps tax bill passed by the house this past week, includes 4.1T in tax breaks to people earning over 400K. Trump campaigned on cutting overtime tax, removing tax on tips and cutting tax on social security. None of these items were in the bill. He also campaigned on reducing energy prices and grocery prices, neither of which has happened. His most noteworthy act in the first month has been the widescale firing of members of the working class.

    Can you tell us, what exactly leads you to deduce he seems to be fighting for the working class? Because I think that that's BS.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,061 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Why would he be damaging the 1%? They are completely insulated against this, and if a recession hits, they can buy assets at distressed prices.

    What we have seen in the last 30/40 years is a massive shift in assets from the lower/middle class to the rich. This has happened regardless of what actually happens in the economy. The public paid the price not the 1%.

    Covid hit, the public paid the price, and the 1% did pretty well out of that.

    So this idea that somehow the 1% will be hurting too in nonsense. Even if they did, there is a massive difference in having your value drop from 100m to 50m, losing your 3 part-time jobs, and not having enough money to buy food.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,544 ✭✭✭techdiver


    Yeah but according to these lot the 1% are just so much more talented and work so much harder than everyone else.

    Look at Musk for instance. He had to pull himself up by the bootstraps with only the wealth of three emerald mines behind him. If he can do why can't you? He also works so hard that he has time to tweet literally hundreds of times per day whilst running a government department, being CEO of three companies and being one of the world's best gamers. The rest of us are just lazy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Field east


    of all the religions, beliefs, tribes, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc in the world - including those in the ‘proverbial’ third world , I suggest that they are all clear on what is right and what is wrong, what is true and what is false/a lie and that they would have ‘rules’ re punishment through some kind of a court , chastisement by parents/ the tribal family elders et al.The only exception to this that I have come across is in the US and Russia

    . Maybe I am missing something and that there is such a state/arrangement/ new way/order of living that has gone beyond the whole traditional religion/ belief thing that has served us all to date? . And typical America it is the first to find new ways, new technologies , etc!!!!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Field east


    recTrump demanding that Uke pay 500bn dollars for the circa $160bn of military hadware/loans that the US has supplied/ scheduled to supply to date - a very big mark up there/ maybe it includes a ‘handling charge which is not included in the lower fig - does any BOARDIE out there know what the arrangement the US has with ISRAEL - and especially with the value of arms/other assistance supplied , say, within the last six years. Were they all bought by Israel, when is it expected to pay, were loans / grants involved or what?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,740 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I have read that several times and haven't a clue what point you are making. Could you clarify please? Are you saying that the US does not have a court system?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,076 ✭✭✭randomname2005


    It has a court system for the poor, not for the rich



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,910 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    It might be that you misunderstood my point: I think Patel was copying his boss's habit in order to curry favour with Trump [imitation is the best form of flattery] while using it to send a "hands off my dept & staff" message to Musk that he works for Trump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭Detritus70


    I'm sure Golfball merely forgot to thank you for your insightful post.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭greenfield21


    We haven't even seen the details of Trumps tax bill. On my previous post these MNCs put a greater burden on individual tax payers by practically paying no tax in America. Quite literally holding hundreds of billions off shore, completely rotten and anyone who calls this out should be commended. Any change here and that's a win for the working class in the US. Nothing will change though as they have too much infuence in government so Trumps bill will fail and any tariffs will be temporary.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,815 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    How do higher prices for consumers benefit consumers?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭nachouser


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    So yeah, that 4tn in tax breaks will help up the value of some of my work shares and stock options. While ******* over the average american worker. Thanks Don.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,046 ✭✭✭✭briany


    How come no-one is talking about the fact that all this stuff Trump is trying to get done is almost exclusively via executive order? Only one law has been passed by US Congress since his inauguration, which wouldn't be that unusual compared to other sessions of Congress, but it is unusual with respect to Trump's radical agenda that he's not trying to get this stuff codified in law, but that he appears to be attempting to become a law unto himself. US Congress, being majority Republican is presumably complicit in this effort.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,126 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    I see Dublin Airport have stuck their oar into the DEI conversation with their radio ad: proudly behind Diversity Equity and inclusion. Not sure why they felt the need to say that with imported American language when equality is mandated by law here.

    I suppose though will that be quietly dropped when the Trump administration inevitably tells them they are closing pre clearance? I don't see the value in the Airport authority poking the bear

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,167 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


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    Does he know he's talking about the party of Angela Merkel?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,128 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,057 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Reuters seems to think they've seen it. But I'm sure you know better.

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    And I'm sure you know bills are passed in the senate after they've been passed in the house.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,126 ✭✭✭MrMusician18




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Can't the senate introduce bills themselves? This one seems to be just that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,046 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Evidently not. He is a deeply ignorant man, and proud of it.

    What's hilarious is that it's possible that none of his underlings would have the spine to point out his mistake and he'll just keep on crowing about how great the Conservative party of Germany is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,126 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    To be fair the CDU that has just been elected is a fairly different political animal in comparison to Merkel's CDU.

    I couldn't see Merz for example inviting a million migrants.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,740 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Because he is afraid no one else will. And he is a pompous, ignorant egotist.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,910 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Hada quick look at the twatter pages of Joe Biden, Kamala Harris and Barrack Obama. F all criticism of Drumpf... You'd think they would be saying something



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