Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

if Trump we’re an FSB agent what would he be doing right now. Trying to squeeze the Ukrainians into an unjust settlement that validates an insane narrative that they were / are the aggressors in this conflict.

His businesses were bailed out by Russian money in the 90s. Wholesale Russian pro Trump meddling in the 2016 election. Now dismantling the very agencies that could hold him to account. Completely insane setup before you even consider him giving Musk the cookie jar.

You just know they've outed a few undercover operatives and/or sensitive operations by sending them "you're a federal employee" email.

is there anything in the constitution that will allow that ? Just because there is no PRECIDENT in the US does not mean that it can NEVER happen.

Surely if the president is certified insane, is producing and selling fentanyl, found by the Supreme Court raping all around the place, committing major fraud, found by the Supreme Court to have directly murdered 10 people for no reason, etc, etc, etc that somebody has to act if he did not resign?

The lunacy continues, I'm expecting this is more a sign that we're gonna see nonsensical attacks on vaccines. This will result in deaths naturally.

So, given we are seeing Trump ruling by decree (Executive orders) and destroying US from within to delight of Russia; what genuine positives do his supporters on here believe he is delivering for all US citizens?

stop between the two of them they couldn’t solve a Wendy’s Menu maze.

"He's triggering libs. That's good enough for me."

(drives off in ridiculously large pickup belching black smoke out the exhaust)

There is a slight chance that Kraznov and M-Rat are up to something far worse than just firing people and betraying Ukraine and all of the US's allies. Tin foil hat stuff, but I hope there is someone in the US security services entertaining the idea.

Not only is the great power of the West turning into a dictatorship before our eyes, but those helping it along, like Musk, are set on exporting the revolution. The plan doesn't stop at the USA. There is also concerted interest that the EU doesn't end up as a bulwark of liberal democracy, more united than before and more of a world power. For them, that can't happen. They'll do a lot to help reactionary right-wing movements throughout Europe to this end. We're only lucky in Ireland that a truly charismatic figure has not emerged on this end of the political spectrum, yet.

You have to asssume the worst (or even the vaguely likely)

To have an unaccountable head of a social media company breaking into the data centres of the government(looking for dirt is my supposition) is like something out of 1984.

Assume the worst .They have no credibility that it might be benign .Even if ,weirdly it was then who is vetting all the minions involved in this information hoovering?

They might even be dangerous European spies .

Recession for the US was nailed on as soon as Trump got elected. The problem is the old adage, that when America sneezes everyone else catches a cold.

We're unlikely to avoid a recession as a result but it's hard to see the US bouncing back like before. To be honest they don't deserve to. It's a country that needs a major attitude reset. Their arrogance and selfishness knows no bounds.

My worst belongs in the conspiracy theory thread and involves all this being a lead up to an undetected nuking of the US. Musk has even paid a visit to the National Reconnaissance Office computer systems - something that just absolutely should not have happened. I guess he's still working on building a pattern so all this stuff seems like an acceptable routine so no one balks when he asks for access to NORAD and NSA computer systems.

I am not suggesting this actually is what is happening, it's tin foil hat stuff. Would make a ripping plot for a 007 movie.

The CIA is supposed to only look at external threats, I believe Homeland Security and FBI deal with internal ones.

The CIA might be a bit distracted at the moment:

C.I.A. Plans Largest Mass Firing in Nearly 50 Years

I think Trumps actions are better explained by large sums of money propping him up almost his whole life. He likely wouldn't even know what he's currently doing as I'd guess his IQ to be about 80, maybe a bit lower - he genuinely is really, really thick.

Is the bar that low now that writing “thank you” at the end of an email is a ‘nice touch’ 🤯

I'm sure every time the military has moved in and removed a leader over the last 100 years, it was illegal under that country's constitution. Arguably though, much of what Trump and Musk are doing at the moment is also illegal, so perhaps all bets might be off at some point in future.