Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

I read earlier that the Israelis being questioned may have been involved in people smuggling and may have brought the perpetrators in unwittingly. Apparently security services have shut down further news on this at the moment.

Seems when you thought that the bile directed at Netanyahu by Israelis couldn't get any worse, it does. And it's well deserved.

RTE:

The family of Shiri Bibas has accused Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of failing to protect their loved ones during Hamas's 7 October 2023 attack and of failing to bring them home.

"There is no forgiveness for abandoning them on October 7, and no forgiveness for abandoning them in captivity. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, we did not receive an apology from you in this painful moment," Ofri Bibas said in a statement.

I have pointed out several times the inability of posters to condemn actions of Hamas, without saying whatabout the Israelis.

I’m interpreting Hamas latest “stunt” as a sign they’re quite happy for Israel to continue bombing the Palestinian people- they have absolutely no regard for their lives- we know the capability and intent of Israel - why poke the fire? Considering current ceasefire there was absolutely no reason to commit this hideous act with the dead remains

Probably trying to goad Israel into a reaction to counter some of the bad press they are getting over these grotesque hostage releases. Nothing that a bit of throwing your own people to the wolves won't solve. I don't think Israel will take the bait this time because there are 6 live hostages due to be released tomorrow. Wonder what fuckery hamas will get up to this time?

At least they condemn Hamas eh.

How long am I waiting now on hearing the specific things you condemn?

Here's the full report from Haaretz. Interrogation by Shin Bet suggests the two Israelis are not just innocent "Uber drivers".

The "gag order" is a bit odd. But as posted previously, Hasbara is a well honed tactic.

Haaretz:
Three bombs exploded on empty buses in Bat Yam, and an additional device was found before it detonated in the nearby city of Holon on Thursday night. Police believe the explosive devices, which weigh less than five kilograms (roughly 11 pounds), were meant to detonate during busy hours on Friday morning and not on Thursday night.

Two Israelis were arrested on suspicion of involvement in the explosions. The two suspects have been transferred to the Shin Bet security agency for interrogation, and a court has issued a gag order on further details.

The military is deploying three additional battalions in the West Bank after the explosions, which Netanyahu's office described as an attempted mass-casualty attack.

What’s your opinion on “administrative detention”??

Think that's the primary target to achieve. Basically anyone and anything is disposable to them. More bombing from Israel side, means more radicalisation, more martyrs to fight for, and whatever else. Happy end for Hamás, not so good for anyone else who just wants to live and go along with the daily life problems and happiness. Hamás doesn't plan any bright future for Palestinians for sure.

Forgot to say that Israel doesn't plan bright future for Palestinians either. Happy now?

I'm glad you are using my posts to push through your agenda.

Hamás is backed up by far more resources than you think, going by your post.

Anyway, you think something, I think something. Both of us could probably sort the mess, by declaring two state solution and be happy with that, while the two nations proceed the usual way (killing each other). Just saying, I would love to have the two nations living side by side peacefully, but what are the chances? Takes only one muppet to spark more violence, on either side.

Even you, a random internet punter in (presumably) Ireland can see what is going on, and yet the zionists are helpless to make decisions which are against the desires of their real masters in Hamas.

And you are?

Didn't mean to touch a nerve there with you as regards where you are or where from.

From my side it certainly did look like you do make sure of that. On the other side, it certainly didn't touch any nerve. Used to it.

Personally I hate that conflict, I see it as some religious bullshít being used for whatever means, on both sides. Plus other interests (hiding behind all sort of excuses, on both sides). And then it's being used up to oblivion by other sides involved for their own targets... Mess it is. From my point of view, Hamás is done, they'll be hunted down at this stage, might take time, but it will be done.

Bigliest President of all time. X2

That explains it. Thanks for that.

I hope that Israel delaying the release of Palestinians following the release of 6 hostages earlier does not jeopardise the very fragile cease-fire agreement and the further release of hostages.

The existing hostages and their families must be going through hell. As are the Palestinian families hoping that their loved ones are returned too.

For those disgusted (including me) by the way Hamas are releasing hostages, do bear in mind, Israel are treating their released Palestinians similarly.

Haaretz:

By direction of Israel Prison Service chief Kobi Yakobi, the Palestinian prisoners will be released wearing sweaters which read: "I will pursue my enemies and overtake them, and I will not return until they are destroyed" (a quote from Psalms) and bracelets that say "The eternal people do not forget, I will pursue my enemies and overtake them."

I pointed this out a week ago, that Trumps plan was to force the Arab nations to step up, that they simply can't allow themselves to be put in a position where such a crazy plan could be considered plausible.

The issue, as I pointed out, if you read any of the general discussion that goes on amongst the Arab nation leaders is that they have no reliable partner to work with in Palestine.

Every single plan has to begin with a method to remove Hamas from the equation, and as Hamas have indicated quite vocally that they are as happy to kill fellow arabs as jews if they set foot in Gaza wearing a foreign uniform, you should be able to see what a huge impediment to peace that actually is.

Rubio stated quite clearly, someone has to police Gaza, and it ain't gonna be Americans.

So which Arab nation's soldiers are you prepatred to sacrifice to fight Hamas after the Israeli's withdraw, because that is about the cruz of the matter.