Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

Apparently Hamas have sent back the wrong body of the mother of the children that died ,big fook up here as according to Hamas, they all died together in an air strike, but could also be a ruse like the bomb attack on empty buses tonight, and the Israeli army are going in big time to the west bank, hi

"According to local media, one of the unexploded devices, weighing 5kg, carried a message saying "Revenge from Tulkarem" - referring to a recent Israeli military counter-terrorism operation in the West Bank.

In response to the incidents in Bat Yam, Defence Minister Israel Katz said he had instructed the military to "increase the intensity" of activity in refugee camps in the West Bank"

Well isn't that handy

More like its probably hard to manage these things when some hostages aren't being held by hamas at all but regular locals who decided to go and do a bit of jew killing and to take some women and children while they were at it.

Initial forensic examination of the children's bodies indicates that they were murdered around a month after being taken and not killed in an air strike as hamas claimed. I suppose it's possible that hamas don't know what happened to Shiri and were duped by the captors, but I can't help but think this is just more psychological warfare. They also locked the coffins and gave keys which didn't work.

Republicans: " omg I hate immigrants"

Trump: "let's create 2.5million immigrants through ethnic cleansing"

Republicans: "Omg Donald your balls taste so good nom nom"

Depends what kinda Zionist I suppose.

If it's the type who believes their homeland exists within the current recognized borders of Israel, something every country have to adhere to, then I'd be pro Zionist too.

If it's the type to think they have the God given right to ethnically cleanse the region and to take over another country and violently claim land that isn't their own, then not so much.

Unfortunately, the latter group seems to be gaining more power in Israel

I said he is either deluded or a zionist… You posted a random screenshot of some random person swearing and probably wishing ill will on a lot of people.

It's funny, here's former Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh meeting with members of Neturei Karta back in 2009.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/gaza-attempts-a-world-record-with-largest-map-of-palestine/

Pretty unusual for the (former) leader of an Islamic Terrorist organization to be meeting with Jews, all of which he wanted to kill right?

After a few days of controversy the BBC finally pulled a documentary from their iPlayer which passed of children as 'ordinary Gazan civilians' when if fact they were the sons of Hamas terrorists.

Explainer : https://twitter.com/mishtal/status/1892868424268660934

To be fair to the BBC it would be hard to find a child in Gaza that isn't related to a Hamas terrorist.

Very true, a child is an innocent civilian no matter who their parents are.

However, that child is also a victim of their parents if they have been enlisted as a child soldier in a terrorist organisation. The responsibility for that lies with their parents or the terrorist organisation if they are an orphan or estranged from their family.

I agree with you and if a documentary leaves out the fact that children have been abused by their parents and the terrorist organisation to be placed in danger through recruitment as child soldiers, then it is telling lies and should be pulled.

There is no suggestion anywhere the child is a child soldier or they are abused by their parents so I'm not why that is being suggested. Hopefully the BBC can republish the documentary with another narrator.

Back at the auld victim blaming again I see.

There's an interesting piece on it here.

No suggestion of mass brigades of child soldiers, but claims idf forces have used palestine children as human shields and tried to recruit them as spy's. Also claims Hamas and other terrorist organisations have used them on occasion as lookouts and couriers at least.

https://www.dci-palestine.org/join

Beware the Hasbara.

Haaretz:

Shin Bet Arrests Two Israelis Suspected of Involvement in Tel Aviv Suburbs Bus Bombs

The two suspects were detained following the Shin Bet's initial investigation into the incident which occurred on Thursday night in Bat Yam and Holon

Why do people automatically think you need to be on one team or the other?

Because that's what it comes down to for some people. That's what EVERYTHING comes down to for some people.

They pick a team and will be prepared to die on any hill they find no matter how ridiculous or hypocritical it is.

The online world on exacerbates that.

2 Israelis arrested on suspicion of driving the suspects to plant the bombs, could be Uber drivers for all we know. A Palestinian who is in Israel illegally was also arrested. They also say there is evidence of iranian involvement. You've already written it off as a big Jewish conspiracy though.