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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,977 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    With the Canadian election this year, if Mark Carny gets the nod I can see Trump really suffering when it comes to the talks or general relationship between both countries.

    The average American has no clue how reliant it is on Canada for so many basic minerals and supplies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Not to also mention how reliant the US is on similarly sanctioned Mexico for their fruit & veg. Not that such a thing would matter to a man who subsists on Happy Meals and Diet Coke.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,544 ✭✭✭techdiver


    It's almost like electing a guy who never had to work a day in his life and live in the real world with the view of making life better for average person was a mistake.

    Then to double down he hires and surrounds himself with similar if not worse individuals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,781 ✭✭✭yagan


    Also how reliant the boomer Yank is on imports of Irish biomed and pharma. 25% tariffs on stuff that keeps them ticking will be a hard pill to swallow.

    Post edited by yagan on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,272 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Kash Patel finally confirmed as Trump's Director of the FBI

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭Qaanaaq


    You can still send feedback if you follow the steps in the post.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 797 ✭✭✭reclose


    I doubt the poster was suggesting that. I also think you knew that too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,977 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,256 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    A conspiracy theorist and election denier. This might be the worst of the lot and that's really saying something



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,798 ✭✭✭threeball


    He didn't even have the decency to wait and make Musk waste millions primarying him before he made his announcement. Looking like a used condom obviously left the guy with serious anger issues.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,798 ✭✭✭threeball


    You can tell that whatever talks Putin and Trump had revolved around them deciding to carve up the world into spheres of influence.

    Europe isn't in too bad a position because Russia are a busted flush but Canada have a real issue on their hands. They are unlikely to convince the EU to come to their aid should the US try it on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,977 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    It’s highly unlikely Canada will need any kind of help, Trump says he wants Canada etc, but he won’t try and take it, he doesn’t have the neck for it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,076 ✭✭✭randomname2005


    Most insular 'free' population. NK and the likes probably know less



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 917 ✭✭✭InAtFullBack


    Mark Carny won't be the next PM of Canada. The Conservatives are projected to win almost 100 seats more than the failing Liberal Party, and that is only back slightly following the media furore over 51st State and Tarrifs, etc… There is a long game being played here, lots of time to go until October.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 248 ✭✭Seattle


    I think current polls have the Liberals and Conservatives neck and neck. Ironically the threats from Trump has made the incumbent party more popular because the public are behind the response.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,977 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Regardless of the election, it is likely that Carney will be the next PM as he will win the leadership of the liberals, and thus become the PM. He has even talked about calling an early election, which is telling.

    Not sure if you follow Canadian politics (I live in Canada), but the latest polls have the Conservatives lead slashed and in some is a dead heat, the last 6 polls have that lead shrinking. Pierre has shot himself in the foot with the total lack of opposing Trump and his talk of annexation.

    With Carney as the head of the liberals, the voting intention is as close as 3 points.

    Lots of time to go until then as you say, but we might not even have to wait that long.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,798 ✭✭✭threeball


    They are uniquely exposed to the US economically. He has the power to really bring the country to its knees unless they pivot quickly.

    There were talks that Canada should consider joining the EU, and whilst full membership probably isn't on the cards, an associate membership like Norway should really be something they look at. An additional 40m wealthy consumers in the Union would really put the states in the ****. Industries that don't wish to relocate to Europe can just relocate across the border and have access to the biggest trading block in the world.

    If the EU can persuade Australia and NZ to align mainly with us, then Europe becomes the world's pre-eminant superpower.

    The US needs a serious reality check. For far too long they've treated everyone like pawns in their game. Now is the time to change the game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,977 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Well equally,Canada could bring America to its needs very quickly too. 60% of the oil America gets is from Canada, then there is the lumber that America needs (think of the supplies for California alone after the fires). Then there are all the metals that are needed like aluminium etc, along with potash that is needed for farming.

    When Trump talks about subsidizing Canada, it is because America buys so much interns of raw materials for manufacturing.

    I do agree that Canada could do with a better relationship with the EU like you said, Canada is resource rich, so it just needs a market for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,798 ✭✭✭threeball


    The US can suffer those losses for a while, Canada can't. Trump is already pressurising Australia to increase its Aluminium exports. It's clear he's looking to hurt them. They should really look to give him the ultimate 2 fingers and pivot to Europe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Field east


    Trump in the White House for 30 days today. So one of the Very FIRST things that Trump said that he will do when he gets in is to end the UKr /RU war in ONE DAY and from day one. There are ‘ 20 days of that one day gone as of today’ Russian 3 days war come to mind !!!!!!!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,977 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Sorry but the US can’t suffer those loses more than Canada. Most of the raw materials they need to just function are not sourced from within their own borders. Canada will suffer, that is not in question, but America would really that a hit.

    If the oil supply was reduced, pretty much everything they use for transport, manufacturing and construction would suffer. And with potash, it is a vital fertiliser for the states for food production, Canada is the largest producer of that in the world.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 95,006 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    "The settlement of the Czechoslovakian problem, which has now been achieved is, in my view, only the prelude to a larger settlement in which all Europe may find peace." — Neville Chamberlin

    The Czechs were forced to give away a lot of their natural resources and the heavy industry located there as part of the policy of appeasement without any meaningful concessions or guarantees.

    It did not end well.

    Eastern Ukraine has a lot of heavy industry and resources.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,326 ✭✭✭blackcard


    On 3 major issues has sided with Russia rather than Ukraine/Europe/NATO.

    Ukraine/NATO started the war.

    Zelensky is a dictator

    Zelensky's has an approval rating of 4%.

    Obviously, Trump is getting information from a number of sources so you wonder why is taking Russia's side. The possible reasons are.

    He believes Russia/Putin

    Russia has compromising material on him.

    There are financial gains for the US in siding with Russia

    There are personal financial gains for Trump in siding with Russia/Putin.

    There are political advantages for Trump/US in siding with Putin/Russia.

    He believes Zelensky slighted him and is getting his revenge.

    He is stupid.

    Not sure which of these is correct



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Field east


    that’s what psychopaths are capable of doing



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,815 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I wouldn't even say forced. They were just handed over to the Nazis to be carved up as Hitler saw fit. They weren't forced or pressured since they weren't even invited to the 1938 Munich conference.

    That's what we have here albeit with one key difference. People like Neville Chamberlain and Edouard Daladier were motivated by a need to preserve peace having lived through The Great War (Daladier served in the French infantry). It was thought that by acquiescing to the seemingly reasonable demand of allowing Hitler to unite the Germans that catastrophe could be averted and legions of lives saved.

    Obviously, it was not to be. We have something similar now but with men who serve no master but Mammon. There's no sense of duty, no civic patriotism and no desire to improve their nations. It's just the same greed, hate and cruelty that drive both Trump and Putin. Zelenskyy, like Edouard Benes, has not been invited to the talks which bring the carving up of his country closer to reality. The American people no longer care about principles like liberty, the rule of law and equality.

    It's still too early to accurately predict what fate awaits Ukraine but the picture so far is not good. I don't think the country's resources and industry in the east will come anywhere near close to compensating for the price Putin's paid for it with Russian lives. At this point, it's all about saving face for a hateful old tyrant who frankly can't die soon enough. The right of the nation state to exist should be sacrosanct, in America above all but here we are.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Field east


    The few thousand Taliban with their ‘funny hats ‘ saw the Russians off in Afganistan



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,815 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Russia's a shithole. Always has been and probably always will be. It's too vast and it never had anything like the Enlightenment of Europe in the eighteenth century. They've only ever known rule by monarchs and dictators and that's unlikely to change. It is the most resource-rich country in the world but they're too corrupt and incompetent to use that inheritance properly.

    It's preferred method of fighting - sending hordes of peasants into battle - worked quite well until about the Crimean War when they were put to shame by France's Zouaves supported by the British. It was able to play the role of Europe's policeman for a while but faded gradually until Operation Barbarossa where it lost almost 30 million people.

    Now, it's a decrepit cesspit devoid of any sort of culture. Ukraine should have been conquered in days or weeks but because of corruption, incompetence, Ukrainian bravery and the reliance on peasants, the war continues.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    if Russia pumped the money into its infrastructure, that it’s spending on a war in Ukraine, it’d be the envy of the world. Trillions pissed away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,057 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    A Democratic Congressman, Robert Garcia received a letter from the DoJ after criticizing Musk during an appearance on CNN.

    Garcia said Democrats needed to bring knives to this bar fight, an obvious figure of speech, and an attorney within the DoJ has written to him saying he is the subject of a criminal investigation and asking him to clarify the remarks which are being seen as a potential threat on Musk.

    This is the weaponization of the DoJ they spent the last 4 years talking about. Pu**ies.



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