Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

But he didn't he then go on to call for elections in Ukraine, basically implying Zelensky does not have the backing of the people? Another claim Putin always makes.

I don't there's a remotely positive way to spin any of his remarks

Just saw this on BBC

Ukraine war latest: Russia won't accept Nato troops in Ukraine as part of any peace deal, says Lavrov

Source: BBC

https://search.app/EGNj

You really have to wonder if Putin has something serious on Trump.

''In The Art of the Deal, Trump writes: “In January 1987, I got a letter from Yuri Dubinin, the Soviet ambassador to the United States, that began: ‘It is a pleasure for me to relay some good news from Moscow.’ It went on to say that the leading Soviet state agency for international tourism, Goscomintourist, had expressed interest in pursuing a joint venture to construct and manage a hotel in Moscow.”

There were many ambitious real estate developers in the United States—why had Moscow picked Trump?

According to Viktor Suvorov—a former GRU military spy—and others, the KGB ran Intourist, the agency to which Trump referred. It functioned as a subsidiary KGB branch. Initiated in 1929 by Stalin, Intourist was the Soviet Union’s official state travel agency. Its job was to vet and monitor all foreigners coming into the Soviet Union. “In my time it was KGB,” Suvorov said. “They gave permission for people to visit.” The KGB’s first and second directorates routinely received lists of prospective visitors to the country based on their visa applications.

As a GRU operative, Suvorov was personally involved in recruitment, albeit for a rival service to the KGB. Soviet spy agencies were always interested in cultivating “young ambitious people,” he said—an upwardly mobile businessman, a scientist, a “guy with a future.”

Once in Moscow, they would receive lavish hospitality. “Everything is free. There are good parties with nice girls. It could be a sauna and girls and who knows what else.” The hotel rooms or villa were under “24-hour control,” with “security cameras and so on,” Suvorov said. “The interest is only one. To collect some information and keep that information about him for the future.”

These dirty-tricks operations were all about the long term, Suvorov said. The KGB would expend effort on visiting students from the developing world, not least Africa. After 10 or 20 years, some of them would be “nobody.” But others would have risen to positions of influence in their own countries.

Suvorov explained: “It’s at this point you say: ‘Knock, knock! Do you remember the marvelous time in Moscow? It was a wonderful evening. You were so drunk. You don’t remember? We just show you something for your good memory.’”''

Absolute nonsense.

NATO without the US would still beat the living sht out of Russia.

Russia can't even take over Ukraine so how are they going to get at the NATO countries.

Your fantasy isn't going to happen.

Hope you are correct, I truly do. My gut is just telling me there are bigger things happening here that we dont know about. The US cosying up to Russia etc just makes no sense, even for Maga. And this meet tween US and Russia in Saudi.

Re your NATO comment - It is definitely weaker w/o USA but so also, individually are much of the militaries in EUROPE, Ireland being the weakest/non existent. Add hybrid war and "terrorist" activity across Europe from Russia + interference in elections like in Romania and one could argue UK with Brexit

We have sent loads and are putting together another 50m package right now.

THAT stupid. Probably not. It's far more likely he's doing as he's told because he's being coerced.

what a cnut

"Make America Great Again"

By bending over and letting Russia use you to pleasure itself.

And it's just insane that it's the Republicans after all their years of "reds" fear mongering.

Trump and Musk clearly now are Putin Puppets

Both have something held over them, and if they don't dance to Putin they'll be exposed

At this rate no one will bother taking a call from the US as it will either be lies or insults, but probably both.

The US century ended with Trump's reelection. His first term was written off internationally as a blip, a result of the disruptions of the social media age, but now the US's slow wheel to the dementia ward is confirmed.

There is very little he could have on them that would matter now. Why is everyone so mad to give them an excuse.

I think they are both just horrible people who actually agree with and like Putin.

no matter what he had on them, his supporters either wouldnt believe it or wouldnt care.

A video of him murdering a rent boy……. fake news, altered video

His supporters would probably justify that as "doing God's work"…🤮

The presidential line of succession is clearly defined in the US constitution. In the event that the president dies in office (which is what we were talking about) the vice-president assumes the office. It's not as if the role just comes up for grabs.

It's a ridiculous question frankly.