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Leinster Team Talk Thread (Love you Furlong time)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Hey_Ho_Lets_Go_3


    I expect Frawley to leave Leinster this summer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭niallm77


    There is rumours of Ross going to France and Munster apparently see Harry as an option to replace Burns. Guess a lot depends on the Byrne brothers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,018 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    As it stands, only one of Ross, Harry or Frawley will realistically leave this Summer (and I can't see it being Frawley).

    We need three capable and senior out-half options so you can almost guarantee that if one leaves, the other two will stay (barring some jewel being unearthed between now and year-end).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭jonok28


    There is a lot of players after that 12 jersey too. Henshaw, Osborne, Tector along with Barrett have have really strong performances in the 12 shirt. I think he remains with Leinster as a 10. I think Ross ends up leaving and Sam, Harry and Frawley are the 3 fly halves next season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    Ross Byrne off to Gloucester next season



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    There's a good chance that both Byrne's will leave Leinster in the summer and potentially Frawley as well. We'd go from a position of strength to having only one recognised senior 10 in the squad. And he's still a rookie too.

    Would be a bit disappointed if Ross and Harry were to leave Ireland entirely. They'd walk into a starting jersey for Ulster and Connacht.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭darkened_scrum


    Harry seems to be going well at Bristol. If Ross leaves he'd get a lot more game time next season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,756 ✭✭✭All_in_Flynn


    Surely the IRFU will be sending Harry to another province? Be criminal to let both of them go abroad.

    Sad to see Ross go personally. Criminally underrated. He's obviously not elite but he's about as good a back up you're likely to find. Hope he got a serious payday out of Gloucester.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,765 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I mean, he's 27. I don't think he is going to be breaking through to new heights at this stage really.



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  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,832 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    if Ross is off, as is reported, then Harry has to stay with leinster. id be happy enough with that situation. Frawley will probably be with ireland, Sam definitely will be. We'd need an experienced head at 10 and Harry would be perfect.

    Still, it highlights a problem with the IRFU system when a capped 10 like Ross Byrne is lost to them, most likely due to their own policies, when the likes of Ulster and Connacht could do with him as their starting 10. Morgan hasnt worked out (yet) and its not clear how 'long term' Ioane is. The safe bet is he will be returning to the SH or france / japan after his Connacht stint.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 319 ✭✭cantwbr1


    Surely the onus is on the other provinces to sell themselves to the Byrnes (R or H) as to the benefits of joining them and be able to put a competitive package together. All 3 provinces are reasonably competitive in URC and Ccup and for Harry, he’s still in the system if he starts tearing up trees.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,018 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    There's no world in which Leinster will end up with only Sam as a senior out-half option. It would be farcical mismanagement of the squad and no professional team would let three of their four out-halves walk out the door with no replacements.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,712 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    Frawley might not be first choice OH any time soon but he won’t be leaving, especially if Ross Byrne leaves.

    Frawley only signed a new contract last season so he isn’t even available



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Hey_Ho_Lets_Go_3




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭bingobango12


    If rumours are to be believed, Connacht put an opportunity in front of him last summer but he had no interest in going there.

    To be honest I would probably go abroad in the same position as both Byrne brothers. Ross won't feature for Ireland again and is unlikely to win anything at any other province. Why not go abroad and give another league a go.

    Harry is slightly different where a good half a season could see him back in the Irish squad, but Crowley would be ahead of him at Munster while he would be behind beaten packs half the time at Connacht and Ulster. Either stick around Leinster and realistically fight for the bench spot or go abroad and give French/England a crack.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,712 ✭✭✭Former Former Former




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭johnh6767


    just turned 27 weeks ago. Don’t agree at all. Time will tell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭johnh6767


    Good for Ross, well deserved and I hope he takes in the rugby dollars at this stage of his career. He has been an outstanding asset to Leinster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,805 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Yeah great news for the lad at this point, I think its an ideal move away from the Top Trumps carry on that happens in the bubble of the Irish system. Gloucester is a top Club and better run than many in the Prem.

    I know Ross a bit through business connections, and I was talking to him at a sponsor commitment event, about 10 days after the Champions Cup Final last year. I was saying I had been in White Hart Lane and he was apologising to me for the disappointing outcome.

    I remember saying to him, listen lad, you fellas work hard in a hugely competitive system and give great enjoyment to tens of thousands of us, week in week out. You should never feel the need to excuse yourself for coming up short against an exceptional team, to a beer drinking old fatty like me whose greatest athletic achievement is jumping to conclusions. So we had a laugh and I hope he felt a bit better than his day had started.

    He's a sound man and a great servant, I wish him good fortune across the pond, hopefully we may see him back to finish out his career yet.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    Thornley reporting it now - I was skeptical when I saw the Daily Mail

    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/2025/02/19/ross-byrne-will-leave-leinster-after-agreeing-three-year-gloucester-deal/

    3 year deal is good going in fairness.

    I think it's fair to say he'd be on a decent wedge there. AJ McGinty allegedly earning over 400k sterling.

    According to the Telegraph earlier this week Molony is on north of 200k sterling.

    It would be a good wedge for a multi cap international one would imagine. Far north on what Leinster probably would have tabled for him.

    Very best of luck to Ross.

    I hope he does well over there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,942 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    He'll do really well I think, I'd argue he's immediately a top 5 outhalf in the Premiership.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,018 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Mark my words, next year there'll be a retrospective reappraisal of how good and reliable Ross has been for us from those who have been criticising him (although they'd probably never admit it).

    Great deal for him and I hope he goes well over there. Always seemed like a great guy so it's well deserved.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,500 ✭✭✭FrannoFan


    I don't think anyone on here would be particularly critical of Ross. He's a great servant. Close on 200 games for Leinster. He might have lacked something athletically to compete with the very very best but don't think anyone felt that was some sort of culpable failing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭El Vino


    Have you seen the URC table, all 3 provinces are in a league with no relegation but only one of the other 3 could be called competitive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,232 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    On a personal level, Harry Byrne would be pretty foolish to stay in Leinster (assuming his contract is up this year). The coaches have made it pretty clear where he stands.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Hey_Ho_Lets_Go_3




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭50HX


    Was it ever released what length his contract extension signed last year was for.

    I assume it was 2 yr extension which would run to Summer 26



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,018 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Oh agreed, this is generally a very positive thread (even in trickier times) and it wasn't a slight on anyone here. I meant it more broadly to the nutters out there with conspiracy theories and those who constantly abused him online.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,232 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    Was his contract length announced? Various rumours at the time it was only 1 year.

    I don't know, hence my qualifier.



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