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What’s your most controversial opinion? **Read OP** **Mod Note in Post #3372**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,032 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    People doing mental gymnastics to declare Conor McGregor as "English" because what Irish person could possibly be a throughly dislikable rapey cnut?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,106 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    It was a very fair statement, that posters last post says he sees Hamas and Palestine as the same. I'm sure he wants every Hanas member killed so if Hamas and Palestine are the same that would suggest he wants all Palestinians punished? That poster has not distinguished the difference between Hamas and Palestinian civilians yet.

    I don't see any issue with people asking for a boycott as it's attacking the government policy of a country and not Jewish people directly. Your right about Israels Eurovision singer, that was completely wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    He'd be a celeb off the bat of a sports career though, where he actually had tangible talent.

    I'd count a celeb as someone famous for being famous.

    My controversial opinion: these new speed limits are a load of hogwash and will make a miniscule difference in the long run if at all.

    I've yet to see the demographic of people most associated with fast driving doing so during the day. It's in middle of the night when roads are quieter and policing is non-existent. Anyone who lives near a motorway will regularly hear them late at night. The new limits aren't going to thwart them.

    Sure its impossible to do so during the school/work run anyway with the volume of traffic.

    They neglect to mention the state of the roads involved too.

    Its nanny stateism, all its doing is adding a few minutes onto the journey of the majority (especially those in tracked vehicles). They may as well cut down every tree that lines a road in case one of them falls on a car and kills someone too (which has happened I think twice in the last fortnight nationally).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    Let’s go down the leftie road.

    After October 7th Israel didn’t go into Gaza and appealed to the UN to get the hostages back. Nothing happens except useless negotiations.

    Hamas/Palestine/Iran/Hezbollah smell weakness.
    More attacks occur as Israel’s enemies realise that Israel is afraid to offend the woke lefties in the west. The USA is afraid to intervene because some students had a march. Israel eventually gets overwhelmed and is no more. Jews are killed and displaced. The new Palestinian state becomes another sh1tshow radical Muslim state.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭89897


    Come on, its absoluetly laughable that you think this is in any way a possibility! Even jokingly



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,106 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    Or let's just go down the reality road. Israel were getting hostages back and then this stopped. Israel then made the decision that they would rather bomb Gaza to bits instead of getting hostages back. The IDF are not afraid to offend the west which is why they have caused the deaths of many civilians in Gaza (both Hamas and the IDF are guilty of civilian deaths). Students had a march due to too many civilians deaths. Israel will never get overwhelmed, Israel are winning the war by a huge margin. The Palestinians eventually getting wiped out is far more likely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭randd1


    In one way it's an over-reaction to some unfortunate deaths on the road in recent times, and a ploy to fool the public into thinking they're doing something about it.

    In fact, they have done something about it. I'll give successive governments one thing, the issue of road safety has been on in which in general they have been proactive (in general) over the decades. Different governments have introduced various measures over the years (mandatory seat-belts, limited numbers in cars, drink driving laws, NCT, improved roads) to curb it, and in the main it has worked.

    There's over 2 million vehicles in Ireland, and yet our death rate is down to 1940's levels where bikes, trains and carts were still the norm. Our worst decade was the 70's where it hovered around (and went above a few times) the 600 deaths mark, and that was with one tenth of the vehicles we have now.

    Credit where credit is due, in the main, successive governments have done the job with regard to road safety.

    What this is now is to show they're still doing something to curb road deaths. But it's over-reach. Yes, one death is one too many but road deaths are going to happen, and drastically lowering speed limits in areas that don't need to be lowered isn't going to change that.

    The second thing, if conspiracy theorists are to be believed, is to push people away from the countryside towards towns/villages to cut down on the need for resources, seeing as it's mainly people living in the country that will be affected by this. A sort of social engineering, if you will.

    And to be honest, that's what it feels like a bit. This won't affect people in towns and cities too much, given the slower flow of traffic in general, but it will affect people living out the country. School drops/collections will be 5/6 minutes longer, getting to work will be 5/6 minutes longer, dropping kids to sports/activities will be 5/6 minutes longer, going somewhere yourself, return included. Not much in the grand scheme of things, but an extra 15/20/25 minutes a day adds up for people, it certainly doesn't make it easier for them.

    Personally, I can see it getting over-turned. Rural voters and rural politicians going mental, some urban drivers, particularly those commuting too as good roads don't need reduced limits. It might only be 5/6 minutes extra, but it's an annoyance that's not needed. The big one will be delivery drivers, and seeing as everything is click and collect these days, that's one industry that's going to be hit hard. Can't imagine businesses or the general population being happy with delays in deliveries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭Cordell


    but it will affect people living out the country

    The kind of people driving at 80+ on roads with grass growing in the middle?

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    About half of the fatalities are drivers and passengers in accidents on rural roads, and these accidents are usually caused by speed that grossly exceeds the safe limit which in too many cases is way below legal or set limit on that road. There are too many roads that can barely fit 2 cars, and with plenty of blind bends and thick hedges with speed limit of 80 or 100.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭randd1


    If you're from the city and used to good roads. Country people can drive them, they do it every day, and usually are the only ones driving them. And if half the deaths are on rural roads, then the other half aren't, so pinning it on rural roads seems senseless.

    What would actually make more sense is if the lowered the speed in parts of the road that were more dangerous than others instead of the entire road network.

    The road I drop the kids to school on has no markings for most of it, but can comfortably accommodate two cars passing each other 90% of the time, with the exception of two parts in the road that have a series of bends where you shouldn't go over 60, and are safest at 50. Stick a sign up that says 50 at the dodgy part and then at the part that can accommodate cars passing make it 80 again, it would be far more sensible instead of making everything 60 where there's no need for it and doesn't really solve the bad part.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Flawed - what if i want to leave individual items to friends who I may not be related to for mon-financial reasons?

    Wills are not just financial safeguards - they are ways of showing appreciation to people and saying the ultimate thank you in case you don't get the chance to say it before you go.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭Cordell


    It's almost 70%, not half, half are those where speed is the most obvious and immediate cause. The most sensible option is to make the default speed low and raise it on safer segments, rather than the other way around. Enforcing it, that's a whole different story.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,323 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Country people can drive them, they do it every day

    What they’re doing is called speeding, not regular driving. They are preventing pedestrians from safely walking on those roads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,229 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    The Nordie Tayto isn't bad



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,771 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    British courts officially discriminate against white people now. There's no way that a white man could call a black police officer "stupid and black" and get away it.

    https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13307015/sam-kerr-verdict-chelsea-striker-not-guilty-of-racially-aggravated-harassment-towards-a-police-officer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,771 ✭✭✭kowloonkev




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,663 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    Ironically it turns out to be Israel with the same Nazi faces.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,363 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    Not sure if this controversial. I love politics and current affairs but I despise it creeping into every single facet a day-to-day life. The less I know about somebodies actual politics the better. In the US it has gone completely overboard to the point it now is truly a game and you pick a team akin to following a sports team.

    It really hits me when I look at the likes of Bohs football club, DEI in the workplace and many others.

    I've worked for companies that were truly progressive and respectful places to work. It genuinely didn't need to be sugar coated and given a name. It was always do your job and treat people fairly. Same as the Bohs example. You're a football club. Worry about playing football.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Yvonne007


    My OH can't bring themselves to go to see Bohs anymore. The overuse of political issues is a huge turn-off for the normal football fan who just wants to see their club play a game. It's sad to see. Theres lots of people who feel the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,648 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    The big attendance at the Aviva last weekend would suggest plenty of fans want to watch them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Yvonne007


    I'm not doubting that. I am just saying that a lot of their traditional and historic fan base have been turned off by their political posturing. I agree it's great for the club to have adopted a way to bring in people who want to be seen as being progressive, but it's to the detriment of older and loyal fans.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,794 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    "My club cares about people, I'm not going any more."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    You mean your OH has been turned off by a football club wanting to do some good initiatives. He's not that loyal of a fan it seems. He can easily still go to the games.

    Can you elaborate on what a "normal football fan" is?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,771 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    What was actually going on there at the weekend? I'm sure there must have been reduced ticket prices or something?

    Like when the women broke the attendance record and most of them didn't pay.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    It was technically a home league match for Bohs against Rovers. Standard adult tickets were €25, €35 in premium.

    Standard ticket for a match at Dalymount is €20, so it was actually more expensive and drew a crowd of over 33k.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭89897


    Out of interest, and cause I dont follow soccer, what is the issue? Is it that they are taking a stance on issues or they dont agree with the issues the stance is being taken on?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Yvonne007


    No, that's not what I mean.

    I mean that my OH liked to go to see Bohemians where a group of politically diverse and socially diverse people could meet up and put their differences aside and stand among each other with the shared love and devotion to the club and leave all that BS outside for a few hours every week.

    A normal football fan is someone who wants to see their club play football and feel camaraderie with people who also support the team. For a club to suddenly take a vocal and staunch political stance alienates a lot of people who may have been lifelong supporters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    You do know that your OH can still do that if he wants to? No one has to engage in anything that the club does or advocates.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Yvonne007


    Thanks for that. Yes, I am aware. But the whole ethos of the club has changed and has become very divisive and is not as football oriented as it once was.

    It's fine if you don't understand, but when a club takes a stance on something, a supporter is also seen to be supporting the clubs stance.

    Nobody is forcing people to go or not to go, but for a football club to suddenly be very political, especially around contentious issues, will be disappointing to people who have devoted most of their lives to the football club.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,820 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Not hard to keep supporting the football. Just look across the sea and you’ve loads of examples of fans who dislike “the owners” of the club but still support the team.

    Those fans tend to arrange protests, maybe your OH could start something like that? Is it the anti-racism, anti-homophobia or pro-refugee stuff that he’s against? Or is it to do with Guinness/Diageo being the new sponsor?

    EmmetSpiceland: Oft imitated but never bettered.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Yvonne007


    Oh Emmet, it's that prevailing attitude that would turn people off. You can be against your team taking a stance on contentious issues without necessarily being against said issues.

    Football should be about football for most fans.

    The overseas mismanaging of the clubs are usually to do with mismanagement of funds or due to bad signings. There is a huge difference between that and a club taking a political stance which could alienate lifelong supporters.



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