Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

Forget about Ukraine and Gaza. They're way down the list of priorities for most Americans.

Millions were duped thinking he'd reduce the price of Groceries immediately, he wouldn't target people from their communities, he would not tax overtime or tips, they wouldn't be immediately out of a job where there was still a need for them to do that job. All of these people were wrong.

He is massively favouring the oppressor in both Gaza and Ukraine. That's what bullies do. He also failed on most of his campaign promises. That's what con-artists do.

And all that is stopped now is it? Or is Mr. President planning to remove people from Gaza to build resorts and not let them return, and take natural resources out of Ukraine in exchange for helping Ukraine keep Russia in only 20% of their country?

You're like a broken record on this. You keep moving the goal posts cause you can't actually argue your points. Trump is the one currently attempting to extort a nation that was invaded. Meanwhile he's making no demands of the invader. On top of that, Trump is the one who is calling for the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. So "but Biden" is pretty irrelevant..

This Republican woman was interviewed on BBC Newsnight - Carla Sands

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carla_Sands

She was on about what a great job Trump was going to do with Ukraine etc etc.

The BBC female journalist asked an excellent question.

“Why doesn’t Trump just ask Putin to withdraw his Troops and the war would simply end?” (She Asked Twice)

Sands (clearly very rattled) response was “Why don’t you ask him, he will hear it here on the BBC” (big fake smile - really white teeth)

The journalist pushed Sands for an answer and Sands just waffled.

You or I do not know the details of any deal that may emerge from Ukraine. However a few things are known: Ukraine is slowly losing the war, America does not want to put more tens of billions in to defending Ukraine, and Ukraine will not be able to recapture the land lost to the Russians without lots of western boots on the ground, which western nations do not want. Trump is realistic and wants to end the war.

As regards Gaza, have you a better plan? Hamas had widespread support from the civilian population and for many years before the October invasion fired missiles in to Israel. All ears if you have a better plan for peace in the middle east, given Hamas wants the total destruction of Israel.

If you have proposals for solving the 2 conflicts eg putting Irish boots on the ground to repel the Russians, or sending Ukraine a few billion in military aid, or us taking in hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees, do tell us. At least Trump is making an effort, you are not.

So you think ethnic cleansing is a good idea? Well I guess this says more about you than anything else. So far, his plans are extortion and war crimes but Biden was worse or something...

Honestly it's tiring when people keep blaming Biden for things that are purely the fault of despotic aggressor states. Ukraine only still stands because of Bidens actions in aiding them in the last 3 years, probably would've done more had he not lost the house to incompetent Regressive bellends in 2023. Israel? Lets face it besides the fact that that shít has been going on for over 50 years due to the "brits being at it again" and the fact that the US supports them because the Jewish community have support in BOTH parties, that shít likely kicked off because OF Vatnik fúcking Russia, they needed a distraction from Ukraine and they got their friends in Iran to push them to do so though that ended up backfiring when they went full ISIS, got their shít kurbstomped by a royally pissed Israel, got a whole load of innocents palestinians killed because of that crowning moment of idiocy and of course their support from Hezbollah didnt materialise expecially after Operation Grim Beeper and of course the coup de grace, Hezobollah getting Neutered ended up with the Syrian Rebels FINALLY winning the civil war and running Assad out of town after 10 years of fighting. As for North Korea, those Grechin fools are food for the grinder, cheap disposable pawns because Kim and Putin don't value human life and Kim wants something better than 1970's Soviet Tech to shore up his own country. Even then they're so ineffective they got their shít wrecked with losses of over 66% in a few weeks once the DilDrones of Consequences arrived from Ukraine to give them a very bad time.

He also singlehandedly built a wall between Mexico and America, swam up to Greenland and tied a rope around it and towed it down to the Gulf of America-Fcuk-Yeah (he changed the name again). He found a cure for Covid (that's right a cure, not a goddamn vaccine) and I hear next week he's going to reveal a plan on how to pipe liquid hydrogen from the centre of the Sun to modified refinery plants in Galvaston Texas and from there he's going to sell energy to the entire planet. God I love how winnying he is. So much winnying.

Just your opinion. People from the New York Times to the BBC would disagree with you. Quote"

Russia is still winning. Its much larger population and more effective recruitment have allowed it to replace losses more effectively, and to gradually push forward, said Franz-Stefan Gady, a Vienna-based military analyst.

“The fat man grows thinner. But the thin man dies,” Mr. Gady said."

Ukraine is losing the battle on the ground .

The USA knows what is happening and wants peace.

and now trump is waving the white flag to Putin. Trump is very weak in his dealings with Putin but that’s what you’d expect from a draft dodger, felon and serial fraudster. Putin is a commie surely he should be arch enemy of American democracy?

There is one thing that can be guaranteed from Donald Trump - do not trust anything he says.

Jan 25th, 2025
"Right now the price is high enough that that war will continue, you gotta bring down the oil price and end the war"
Trump also threatened to impose "high level of taxes, tariffs and sanctions" on Russia if Putin doesn’t make a deal to end the war.

When asked about how Ukrainians might feel about being betrayed omitting them from the sham peace talks in Saudi:

Feb 18th, 2025
Ukrainians "had a seat for three years - and a long time before that"

Interesting piece on CH4 news earlier where a Swedish representative during his first term recalled that he viewed the EU as a threat to the USA.

Ok let's go with this false reality. The sitting us president is responsible for all global affairs during their term. So what about COVID then? That's over 7 million deaths, is Trump responsible?

It looks like thats what 50% of the American public want while the other 50% are too apathetic or cowed enough to stop him, All of Europe now needs to unite the remaining western allies, Europe + Canada + ausnz +Japan/Korea against the US/Russian/Israeli aggression, internally it's up to the Americans themselves but externally he needs to be challenged strongly and western nations turned away from the US towards the rest of the world.

Without American support Ukraine would likely still have European support etc

Is that enough to beat Russia back over the border? I'm not sure

Wishful thinking, but the links in post no. 10792 show that Ukraine is slowly losing, even with the many tens of billions of support it has got from the USA , UK and Europe.

The US knows that and wants to stop the war. It has been involved in enough of them, and has all the hi-tech gadgetry, to know what is happening. Trump the businessman does not want to waste another 70 billion either on a country much closer to us than them, while we and others remain neutral.