Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

You are missing the point. Most of the conditions being treated by the pharma and alternative industries are preventable.

Obviously there have been game changing advances in medical science but also game changing industries profiting from making people sick. Pharma are making vast profits treating preventable conditions, not an efficient way to spend taxpayers money.

I think for Musk it's more of a big f**k you to Biden who effectively ignored Tesla when it came to electric car discussions. Biden was showing favour to "legacy" car makers

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/22/elon-musk-accuses-biden-of-ignoring-tesla-but-says-he-would-do-the-right-thing-if-invited-to-white-house.html

Hell hath no fury like a millionaire Nazi scorned as they say

Wrt the covid vaccines, the public health emergency is over and the vast majority of the population are effectively unvaccinated since the vaccine only works for less than a year.

Of all the orders to pick, I don't think it's particularly controversial.

So you're trusting the guy who is responsible for deaths in Samoa due to his anti vaccine rhetoric. He basically campaigned against something that would prevent preventable illnesses.

Meanwhile his claims about autism,ADHD etc being on the increase is just wrong. We're far better at identifying the symptoms. Eg in childhood I was not recognized as being on the spectrum but I absolutely would be now.

Your reference to pharma creating illnesses is vague. There's very real issues in terms of how things like pharmaceutical marketing can be done. Eg how this factored into the opioid crisis. Over prescribing is real but then there are also plenty of people who do need drugs for mental health issues.

So you're placing your trust in a guy who is responsible for deaths due to his rhetoric. He ironically enough still vaccinated his children.

If you were having some issues at work would you hire someone utterly incompetent with no experience with the validation of "maybe he will succeed, time will tell"? Of course not

"Maybe this anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist with no health experience and quite possibly a brain-worm will make a good health secretary for the nation" - Nobody

It's a king putting loyal cranks in charge of whatever to reward them for their support. Nothing more. Attempting to salvage something from that is astonishing.

Well in the workplace being discussed here all predecessors were utterly incompetent. RFK probably wont succeed but he is following a persistent tradition of failure and not even trying.

A quick look up of Xavier Becerra and he absolutely worked to improve the system. Including expanding healthcare services, reducing drug prices etc. So he was normal and absolutely wouldn't be considered a failure.

Now, we've got a guy who is responsible for deaths due to his antivax views. Outlandish views on autism. And coming out with frankly insane proposals. You don't actually appear to wish to discuss his plans or views though. I assume you don't think autism is caused by vaccines?

Expanding healthcare services and reducing drug prices look good but do nothing to address the issues. Rearranging deck chairs on the titanic.

Any reason why you're dodging his views on autism and the deaths they caused in Samoa?

In addition to the list of conditions re post no 10208 the following can be added:-

(13) that Ru immediately resigns from being a member of BRICS and that it NEVER joins any other such grouping - be it for economic ,military, social, cultural, environmental and similar such reasons.

(14) that Ru agree that VZ is the officially elected president of UKr and that his government is properly constituted.

(15) that RU agrees that VZ was never a Nazi and is not now a Nazi and that the current government of UKr is not a Nazi government

I agree with your stance on that subject but why do you need to take such a condescending tone with people?

You should talk to people the same way you would if they were standing in front of you.

Isn’t this a black and white view?
Listening to concerns isn’t the same as fully implementing them.
There could be a compromise somewhere that could keep all people relatively happy or happy enough to stay away from the far right.