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Inconsiderate neighbour - looking for advice.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 DareToBeARose


    Update - the Garda have confirmed to me that they visited the neighbour on Friday evening and spoken to them.

    Not a peep from them since.

    But, I have been wondering if they might retaliate in some way. Any thoughts on this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭spakman


    When you're going out, leave your radio and TV on full volume.

    You won't have to suffer the noise but they will. The message should start to sink in then



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,458 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    I would lose my mind in that suituation, this is the dump of a country we live in though. in germany, if you breach noise laws, which are taken very seriously, the Polzei will be down immediately and there will be consequences. Depends how up for confrontation you are…My uncle would drill into his basement wall every sunday, when there was noise pisstaking next door, that ended things, pretty quick… Adding sound proofing on your end, an option too, but expensive and no guarantee it will totally eliminate the sounds



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 DareToBeARose


    Just to be clear, I don't want to retaliate. I want peace, I don't want anyone disturbing mine and I won't disturb anyone else's either.

    I just want to be prepared if the neighbours decide they want to 'get even'; it's the human psyche after all.

    They have already demonstrated some aspects of their pettiness. Not sure how low someone might stoop to.

    We are blow-ins. They have family and friends in the area.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 DareToBeARose


    I lived in Germany briefly. I was told not even to use a vacuum cleaner on Sundays and quiet times.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭spakman


    You're a nicer, more considerate person than your neighbours. Unfortunately that doesn't help solve the problem.

    If they don't give a sh*t, and you want to avoid stooping to their level, then I think keeping a log and sending to the council is probably your only option.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 DareToBeARose


    Thanks for this. I don't want to stoop to their level but I am prepared to go to any legally and socially acceptable extent to get this nuisance to stop.

    Every time the noise nuisance happened, I had been emailing the Gardai. The last time, I called 112. I intend to keep at this until the nuisance stops permanently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,291 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    Where is their meter box placed?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 DareToBeARose


    On an external wall. Our boxes are not backing on to each other, if this is why you are asking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,066 ✭✭✭homer911


    OP, if you are concerned about repercussions, would a video doorbell be of any value?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,066 ✭✭✭homer911


    I'd suggest putting a note through their door.. (#3)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,291 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    be a shame if someone disconnected their power every once in a while.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,805 ✭✭✭jd


    I'd get in contact with a local City/County Councillor that you'd trust and see if they'd help you with the process of getting a disabled parking space.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    OP, do either of your parents (or yourself) have a Primary Medical Cert or Disabled Parking Permit? If so,

    https://www.dublincity.ie/residential/parking-dublin-city-centre/disabled-parking/disabled-parking-bay-criteria



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    Some people just don't know how to behave decently around others. Just because this moron thinks it's acceptable to play his dubious music choice..doesn't mean others should suffer.

    II'm Glad the authorities are at least listening and having a chat with this thicko.

    IIt's No consolation but there are people like this everywhere. The ones who insist on subjecting passerby to their 'music out the car window, as they tear past.

    Why they think anyone in interested in it or why they think it's acceptable is baffling.

    I hope you get this sorted Op. It's so upsetting having your peace and quiet in your home destroyed by sheer thoughtlessness and bullying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 DareToBeARose


    Been seriously considering this myself. Thank you for confirming this as a good idea.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,740 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    Stress in your own home is unbearable.

    If possible stop worrying and wondering about retaliation from them. This rabbit hole will only get you more and more stressed.

    It's quite likely they'll do nothing at all.

    The wife could be telling him to keep quiet for years to no avail.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 DareToBeARose


    I'm hoping that they don't escalate any further.

    Actually, you might be on to something there. There is no noise nuisance from the neighbour when the female is at home.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,132 ✭✭✭endofrainbow


    As far as I know, the Gardai can only ask them to lower the music, nothing to stop them cranking it up again when they leave.

    Every time a complaint is made, it's logged on the Garda pulse system. This might spark a quiet word from Community Garda.

    You have my complete sympathy. I had an ongoing problem with 14 people next door, from a large South American country. Parties 5 nights a week. Eventually came to a head when a neighbour called the DS, tenants evicted a few days later.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 321 ✭✭Soc_Alt


    Op. Is this house 2 doors down or directly next door?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,221 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    OP have you considered soundproofing the party wall. There are sheets of stuff that can go straight onto the wall, it is quite thick though which could be a downside. Otherwise if your wall is plasterboard you could take that down insulate it and replace with soundproof plasterboard, that would be a bigger job and probably more expensive.

    I would not go down the route of blasting music back at them, it sounds like they are stuck in their ways and it could become a tit for tat situation and who knows where it might end.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 DareToBeARose


    Essentially, what the neighbour is doing is this (highlighted below)

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    Not sure what the threshold is for this to happen. I intend to find out.

    I am sincerely hoping it doesn't get to this and there are no more instances of noise nuisance and I having to call 112. It is all very stressful and makes me anxious.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 DareToBeARose




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,294 ✭✭✭MrVestek


    That's likely the best solution here in fairness. Beat them at their own game so that they get the message. People are cnuts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 DareToBeARose


    Post deleted.

    Post edited by DareToBeARose on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,294 ✭✭✭MrVestek


    There's no winning with lowlives like these sadly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,476 ✭✭✭SteM


    Where was the retaliation? According to you they've been quiet since you had the Gardai call, and as far as he was aware an old man had come up to shout at his partner about a parking spot in front of the kids. He came to speak to you directly about it, how is that retaliation? Retaliation will be when they park in that spot every chance they get. You got your way about the music, they'll make sure they get their way about the parking.

    Unfortunately you have fallen out with your neighbours. Hopefully they'll move out at some point and you can start again with new people.

    BTW, if the parking spot is not assigned to your house your father can not tell your neighbours to leave it free for your use. He can request they leave it free but not tell them to. If you found it scary call the Gardai and report the incident.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 DareToBeARose


    After much emailing and phone calls and getting a Councillor to speak to the Superintendent - two community Gardai came up to our house to speak to us in person.

    They are still trying to downplay this as normal in closely built environments. I have explained multiple times, over and over again that it is not normal living noises I am complaining about but spiteful loud music.

    I have been told not to call 112 anymore. Now I know this is futile and have no appetite to do this anymore. I intend to email the local station each time it happens to create written records.

    When I mentioned filing a Section 108 case with the District Court, the community Garda again tried to dissuade me saying the hostilities could further escalate. Anyone have personal experience of how bad this can get with neighbours? I understand this depends on the character/anti-social tendencies of the neighbour. The worst I have had so far (apart from the deliberately loud music) is the male ringing the doorbell and shouting at me about a parking issue. Relations with the neighbours is frosty for now; we ignore each other when we happen to leave the house at the same time. But how bad can it get? How can I protect ourselves from the worst of it?

    Also, will I need a solicitor to bring a case under Part 11 of the Criminal Justice Act 2006 for anti-social behaviour - extract from Citizens Information website below. The Garda is categorically refusing to accept that this is anti-social behaviour where private dwellings are concerned. Is he right? Should I raise with the Sergeant or request the Councillor to raise with the Superintendent?

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Are they still playing loud music, or has it stopped?

    Also, AFAIK, only the Gardai can apply for ASBO's, not a solicitor.

    https://legalblog.ie/anti-social-behaviour-orders/#:~:text=A%20civil%20order%20may%20be,as%20the%20court%20considers%20appropriate.



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