Inconsiderate neighbour - looking for advice.

mrslancaster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123239758#Comment_123239758

Who knows what that Garda was doing at that time. We hear constantly how under-resourced AGS are. Anyone can have a busy/bad day in work and can come across the wrong way, it doesn’t follow that they always have a bad attitude. Also, there are different opinions about what constitutes a bad attitude or rudeness.
The noisy inconsiderate neighbour is a big problem for the OP, but it could be of lower priority to a busy overstretched garda. AGS do a great job, didn’t the OP say they already called to the neighbours (#62) and then OP had a visit from local liaison officers (#90). Is there much else they can do? That garda station could be dealing with all kinds of serious criminal offences, we don’t know. Presumably they prioritise just like any other job.

IMP OP needs to contact a solicitor for advice on their options.

FazyLucker

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123240105#Comment_123240105

Nobody ever said AGS don't do a good job - many of them do their absolute best with what are as you say a lack of resources. But it is also true that there are lazy useless Gardai in the force who don't give a you know what and I don't think anybody could deny that either!

I totally agree with your last line, I think the OP needs to go legal on it and talk to a good solicitor. Even an initial solicitors letter might focus the mind.

Whatever you do OP, don't go down the "taste of their own medicine" route. You're lowering yourself and if you go legal on it you want the moral high ground, not to have a counter claim against yourself.

SteM

My wife is English and about 15 years we were over visiting her uncle who lives around New Cross in London. He owned a place and the house next door was being rented out to students who were in college close by. At about 11pm on the Friday night music started being played loudly next door bleeding through the walls. He excused himself and went to make a phone call. About 30 minutes later there was a knock at next door and the music went off straight away. He had gone to ring a council number and they had sent someone out to the house next door, it had happened a few times he said. About 10 minutes later he was got a call back from the council team to ensure the music hadn't started again. I was stunned by the whole process, it seems like a great idea.

thereiver

Talk to your local td how does the neighbour on the other side to the noisey neighbour feel about all the noise the problem he's playing drum and bass which is extra loud send a email to newstalk so you think your an adult

Newtalk ie website

They deal with a wide range of problems

You could rent your house out and move elsewhere I live in a terrace house I never hear noise from next door

Maybe get sound wall insulation installed on side wall

Esel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123240078#Comment_123240078

like there is a note on the emergency call centre to do this if there was ever a call from our address.

A touch of understandable paranoia. This scenario might occur in the local station, but there the Garda would be identifiable if you wanted to complain about how your call was handled.

Have you written to the Superintendent yet?

DareToBeARose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123241937#Comment_123241937

Not written to the Superintendent yet.

The community Garda paid a visit to the neighbours this afternoon. We saw him leave the neighbours' house but have not been given an update from the Garda following the visit.

As far as I know, this is the first intervention in the matter from the Gardai. Going to give it a week to see if the noise nuisance situation improves.

Still worried about retaliation from neighbours though.

I actually made a GSOC complaint about how that last 112 call was handled and the discourtesy of the Garda I ended up speaking to. I am seriously considering withdrawing the complaint now - I could do without additional hassle at the moment. I am already very stressed.

SteM

I'd concentrate on one battle at a time to be honest.

Goldengirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123170421#Comment_123170421

Good to get back up from another neighbour.

You have ,I presume , already tried to reason with your neighbour outlining your issues and how their noise and behaviour is affecting you? If not you should as this would be classed as a reasonable way of trying to sort it out yourself . Get someone to go with you who will act as a witness .Follow up with a letter detailing the conversation and any resolutions outlined.

If no improvement tell them you will be taking further action ..and do . Solicitor's letter / report to LL or Council / AGS .

They would want to be prize A neanderthals to let things go that far ( they might be or think they can bully you ) but you won't be friends which I suspect you don't care too much about .

Oh and park in their parking space as well as yours, half in half out whenever you can leaving plenty of room for your elderly parents to get out on your side , just while you are getting the disabled parking space sorted out of course . It's the least they could do for you after causing you all that grief .

SteM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123242895#Comment_123242895

Oh and park in their parking space 

as well as yours, 

half in half out whenever you can leaving plenty of room for your elderly parents to get out on your side , just while you are getting the disabled parking space sorted out of course . It's the least they could do for you after causing you all that grief .

This is such bad advice imho. Why would you want to provoke people that are already making your life a misery? Why do something they can take photos of and complain about you?

Goldengirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123171111#Comment_123171111

It's the vibrations of the bass notes reverberating through supports and beams which are between semi detached houses .People who play music professionally often have to get extra sound insulation on their party walls to prevent this . If you don't hear other sounds then maybe they should consider this or a sound proofed cabin in the back garden .

They need to take the cost and the responsibility for this , not you .

Goldengirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123242935#Comment_123242935

It was while getting a parent in and out, again perfectly reasonable and might focus their attention on the needs of others living beside them .

Not leave it parked there obvs .

But if they did have to leave it there now and again if their neighbour's did not improve their scummy behaviour I don't think it would be a bad thing , no .

OP said that they have been doing this constantly .

SteM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123242944#Comment_123242944

You said park not drop off.

Esel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123242895#Comment_123242895

The post you are replying to here is 3 weeks old. After that you replied to a post from 2 weeks ago.

Goldengirl

And the last post I replied to was tonight when somebody replied to me ..now this because you replied to me !

It's very interesting the way a discussion forum works isn't it? :)

Esel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123243131#Comment_123243131

My point was that your posts were almost irrelevant as the thread had progressed a lot from the posts to which you were replying.

CalamariFritti

Why in gods name would you prefer to start a Facebook debate over and with someone who lives literally next door to you? What happened to knocking on the door and talking to people? Is this the new normal? Seems totally weird to me.

I think theyre in the wrong and youre in the right. But I dont think you handled this well at all. Or like a normal adult person even. This was never going to end right for you this way imo.

DareToBeARose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123243162#Comment_123243162

I did do that. After trying to ignore the noise on a few occasions, I did ring their doorbell once and told them to reduce the noise. The message did not stick and it happened over and over again even after that. It is frustrating and annoying to get dressed and go downstairs, ring their doorbell, wait for them to answer and ask them (again!) to reduce the noise, considering the noise nuisance happens 2-3 times a week. I even asked the female privately on Facebook Messenger to reduce the noise, while I trying to have a lie in recuperating from an infection and was too tired to go downstairs and speak to them. I tried another time too - music blaring on a bank holiday weekend Saturday morning, I went and rang their doorbell. They only sent their young son to peep out of the living room window to see if I was still there.

JoChervil

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123171111#Comment_123171111

Maybe you should contact any agency, which protects children?

SteM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123243513#Comment_123243513

For what reason?

JoChervil

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123243541#Comment_123243541

They are living in this noisy house. It might irreversibly damage their hearing and have other health and emotional influence as well…

I mean the male is abusing not only neighbours but his own family as well.

SteM

Maybe the kids like the music. Just because it's disturbing the OP does not mean the people living in the neighbours house are being abused.

Reporting the family to a child welfare agency because loud music is occasionally being played is going to a very dangerous place imho.

kippy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123165877#Comment_123165877

This would be the best course of action initially. Talk it out.

If that doesn't work then you can look to make a noise complaint or escalate to tit for tat - but none of that is really any good.

One would hope adults talking about the situation in person/establishing relationships would resolve the situation.

Dial Hard

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123243481#Comment_123243481

I can't help but feel that if you'd asked them could they lower the music on that first visit rather than telling them to, you'd have had a very different outcome.

🤷‍♀️

JoChervil

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123243572#Comment_123243572

It doesn't matter, if they like it or not. Kids can't judge if it has a damaging effect on them. Would you give for example Bayleys to your 1 year old kid because it likes it?

So if it is a dangerous route, so maybe talking to a woman about such possibility, will make her come to her senses and she will stop enabling the man.

spookwoman

OP I feel your pain, going through hell with our neighbours and ours shouts in the windows and stares up at the bedroom windows.

For the sound recording get yourself a Decibel Meter preferably a bluetooth one that records the levels to your phone "

RS PRO RS-95 Sound Level Meter, 35dB to 130dB, 8kHz max

" is one and this along with the sound recording can be used as evidence. It's proof of how loud the noise is. Get the ring door camera for peace of mind and safety. Document everything and take photos.

There is a new thing that has come in called a section 28 "https://www.kwsols.ie/en/news/new-civil-restraint-orders-to-protect-victims-of-harassment-and-stalking-introduced" and the gardai and any person can apply for one. Talk to https://www.crimevictimshelpline.ie/ and they might be able to help you and point you in the direction of what you can do about them.

Best of luck.

DareToBeARose

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SteM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123243602#Comment_123243602

Yes, because everything the OP has posted so far suggests that the family are reasonable and threatening the mother about her children will defiantly calm things down.

Some people just don't live in the real world.

The Baileys comment is ridiculous, I won't even comment on it.

JoChervil

OP, You seem don't get it that writing txts you act from a position of weakness, you need to confront things directly showing your strength and determination. With your course of action you are sabotaging your own efforts.

C3PO

I would like to hear the point of view of the “offending” neighbour! It is unrealistic to live in a terraced house and expect to hear no sound through the walls. On the other hand it would be unreasonable to have music pounding so loud that the walls vibrate. I think if the OP intends to go to court they will need to have verifiable evidence of the nuisance and the only way to do that is with a noise meter!