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UK state pension

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,854 ✭✭✭54and56


    For various reasons including living and working in other (non UK) countries over the years I reckon I'll be 150 or so contributions short by the time I reach 66. Is there a way I can make extra / voluntary contributions over the next few years in the run up to retirement so that by the time I do get to 66 in 2035 I have the full compliment of 2,080 contributions made to fully qualify for the Contributory State Pension?

    @mods: If this isn't appropriate for this thread (seems to correlate strongly with the main subject) and it should be in a thread of its own please feel free to move.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭Bojill




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭RCSATELLITES


    Are you working in Ireland at the moment paying the full 52 weeks contributions? If so you can't add any more to it. But have you looked at voluntary contributions when you were working outside of Ireland. This depends on the country that you worked in and how long ago it was and other variables like having at least 520 contributions in order to pay voluntary ones.

    Have to added times that you would have received credited contributions eg out on sick leave, job seeking into your calculations. Could there have been a year when you were looking after kids and could apply for the homemakers scheme.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,854 ✭✭✭54and56


    Thanks @RCSATELLITES, The last time I worked outside Ireland was 2003 to 2005 in Thailand so I have 0 paid contributions for those years.

    I guess the best thing I can do is call / contact this DSP section and see what they have to say?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭RCSATELLITES


    No problem. Yes definitely contact them and ask there is no harm and there might be something available.

    There is also where you can work for longer up until you are 68 or so, now I haven't looked at the details but that way could get you over the threshold. 👍

    Also if you have any properties rented or even investments and don't work like me you can pay S contributions which cover you for the pension. So you don't technically have to be "working" .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87 ✭✭gerrykeegan


    Just an update for others. I made my first payment for back years and rang that number previously given 44 191 203 7010

    Was on hold yesterday afternoon for an hour and gave up but tried this morning and was waiting 26 minutes. They could see my payment but it wasn't allocated as yet. I gave her the years and she made a note of it. There is an app you can download and this will also show you what years are paid and what years you can pay. But note with the years that you can pay, it will always reflect Class 3 contributions even if you have been told you can pay Class 2. There system isn't clever enough to know this and she said it is causing confusion. So the amounts showing as outstanding are way more than they should if you are looking at the app. Thanks to all the contributors to this thread, I don't think I would have gotten this far with out everyone's help.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,053 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Just on this Class2 /Class 3 cock up. I received my letter with payments referring to Class 3 only. I ignored it at that time as I think they were looking at almost a €1000pa for each individual back year payment.

    Should I just now ring the UK and tell them that it is the Class 2 I should be paying and seek figures under that class as opposed to the higher rate?

    Thanks lads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,567 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    I made my second payment a couple of weeks ago this morning I received this by text.

    MyGov: Your pre-approved 2024/2025 tax credit repayment could not be processed. Please verify your information at Mygovepayment.com.

    Number it came from, +353857794376

    The link doesn't work mygovepayment.com

    Doesn't look right but to get it when I just made a payment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭RCSATELLITES


    SCAM!!!!!!!

    Mygov is the irish version nothing to do with hmrc. Just a coincidence you got it. That's how people get caught out.

    Don't click the link for God sake



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87 ✭✭gerrykeegan


    I would say 100% that is a scam, you are just unlucky it follows a payment you made.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭Peckham


    Yes, if your letter says Class 3 then this means that you haven't been approved for Class 2. You should ring them as you'll need to appeal the decision if you believe you're entitled to Class 2.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87 ✭✭gerrykeegan


    If you can prove you are employed in another country then they will accept Class 2. You only have till the 5th of April to get it sorted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭RCSATELLITES


    You need to prove that you are in fact entitled to pay the Class 2. Class 3 is the default and like everything in life, you need to fight for what you feel you are entitled to. If you sent the cf83 form with all the information they asked, did they still come back with class 3. Did you say you left the UK immediately after finishing working there and started a job in another country. Did you send proof of those jobs, dates addresses where you worked. If you didn't then send a cover letter to say you feel you are entitled to pay class 2 as you meet the 2 x criteria for class 2 payments.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,053 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Thanks a lot lads for the advice. Yes, I'd say they just hit me with the default. I'll get back in touch with them immediately and give them all my information. I literally left the UK and started with the PS over here about two weeks later, so wage slips, Revenue p60s etc are readily available.

    Thanks again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,567 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    Thought it didn't look right, just a coincidence i just made a payment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,124 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Glad I found this - didn't know you could claim UK pension so happy days

    Gave them a ring, 5 min hold if that and got a lovely Scottish woman. Apparently have 15 years contributions (that can't be right) and about £85 weekly pension.

    Filled the form in online and now just wait to see how much it's gonna cost me, no chance of a full pension for me, not gonna be working that long - I'd be paying back to 2006 so hopefully all Cat 2 so I can pay it all off one go lol



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭RCSATELLITES


    Yeah definitely, happened with me as well. Got the yeah you can pay class 3, but I sent another cover letter stating that I am entitled to pay class 2 and sent a few photocopies of Revenue documents. Then I got approved for class 2. It's a huge difference in price so well worth the hassle of writing cover letter and sending proof. Get it in before April 👍👍👍

    Ring them, but I definitely recommend sending written correspondence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,920 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Thought had too many years credited as well but they credit you about 3 years for education so that all are on a level playing field .

    It's really worth persevering through the bureaucracy for what is a decent pension .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,053 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Will definitely do it this weekend. I've got my P60s etc so I'll get the letter off asap. Do you happen to know what address I should send it to or is it just the generic one where everything is addressed to?

    Thanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Gorteen


    Is there a telephone number you can share to confirm payments made for additional entitlements.

    I paid by bank transfer, on behalf of my wife, for additional entitlements last April and have yet to receive any confirmation for the sum paid. The money left my account but it may as well have gone into a black hole. I'm concerned that we haven't yet received confirmation of the payment.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,698 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Does anyone know how you could find out your national insurance number if you worked in the North but have always been resident in the Republic?

    Tried registering online with hmrc but eventually come to a question that can't be answered. Either looking for my NI number, which don't have a record of, or else asking what years I worked in certain jobs, and can't remember that exactly.

    Have also been asked for a postcode where I was resident, but that never applied.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,395 ✭✭✭jj880


    Got mine from a payslip. If you dont have a payslip could you still contact who you worked for?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,698 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Yeah , was thinking that. Will give it a go, cheers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭Mach 3


    I was possibly talking to the same woman a weeks ago - Ann was her name IIf I remember correctly.

    I asked her about changing from class 3 to class 3 contributions as shown on my account, she said you can now fill in the form online instead of posting it. She also informed me that as long as they had received the form by April 5 that it would be still processed.

    Some on here are saying that payment s have to in by April 5 as I voiced my concerns of being to lste.

    Just get it in was the "strong" message I got from her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,124 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    She told me the same thing - as long as the application was in you can still claim back to 2006 after April or that's what I took it to mean



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,698 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Have completed form CA5403 to request ni number by post.

    Hopefully that'll work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭RCSATELLITES


    I sent mine to this address. Make sure you put your National insurance number or any reference number you received previously.

    PT Operations North East England

    HM Revenue and Customs

    BX9 1AN

    United Kingdom



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,053 ✭✭✭Fann Linn




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭swampgas


    I'll checked my notes and found two numbers, but can't be sure if either of them is correct:
    +44 191 218 3600
    +44 191 203 7010

    I'll dig though my notes tomorrow and see if I can find a better answer. (It's possible the number has changed in the meantime too, I suppose.)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,124 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Called this number 0044 191 2037 010 earlier and got an answer in minutes (after all the automated stuff)



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