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Mechanic charged me for a simple check and not a service

  • 12-02-2025 07:50PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭


    Hi,

    I've been charged 60 quick for a pretty much an oil check and other things I could have done myself. The mechanic reckons I don't need a proper service for another 7 km according to their log book. Is this right? I've not had my car serviced in over 18 months so I just assumed an oil change and other bits would be needed. Maybe they did me a solid. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    How do you keep track and know when service milestones are due? I want to learn from this as I could have saved myself 60 quid doing checks I regularly do anyway.

    Also, any tips or resources of basic DIY things I could do with a car, such as oil changes? I'd rather leave going to a mechanic only when absolutely necessary.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,966 ✭✭✭corks finest


    feck



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,966 ✭✭✭corks finest


    taking a leaf out of the doctor’s book



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,283 ✭✭✭kirving


    I'm not being smart, but if you could have done it yourself, why didn't you do it yourself?

    Would you be happier if the mechanic did an oil change (that you didn't need) and charged you €200?

    Generally speaking, and oil change once a year would be advisable (so you're not wrong there) but it's not strictly necessary.

    It sounds to me as though the €60 is flat rate for 30 minutes to get the car booked in, fluids checked, up on the lift for underbody/brake checks, quick test drive, and logging that everything is ok. Is that what the mechanic did?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭MossyTracks


    Pretty much, yes. Well, I have never done an oil change, change spark plugs, and so on. My confidence is a bit ruined now as I'll have to be more probing and careful next time. I'd prefer if they let me know it does not need a service based on the clock and ask if I'd like a check anyway.

    What I can do myself is check the oil level, tyres are pumped, and so on (what was done).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,732 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    You don't determine what it needs based on the 'clock'.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭User567363


    Could there be a mix up with the "next service due at millage" and the "last service done at millage"?

    Ya hardly did only 3000 miles in 18months, a lot would do that in 1 or 2 months



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,966 ✭✭✭corks finest


    ask a mate or a relation

    Buy a vacuum pump

    Axle stands and a jack


    and get him to stand over you to do a simple service

    Oil/ oil filter air filter change etc

    You’ll learn life skills and be able to pass them on

    And save bobs

    PS if u choose to buy what I recommend make sure it’s from a reputable source



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,732 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭admcfad


    I would be in a very similar position to yourself, my milage is very low, approx 3,000 k a year, and my mechanic sends me away when I try to book a yearly service, I keep on top of fluid levels myself and if I notice an issue (dash light/rattle etc ) I will get him to look at it, but I generally only get a full service every 10,000 k. I have a mini service roughly every 10/12 months.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,943 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    He did you a favour and you are complaining about it. This is why there is no point doing anybody a favour, there would be less complaints if he had just done a full service and charged you full price for it.

    And "a quick check" is such a disingenuous way to describe this. You are paying for his expertise, even when that expertise means that he inspected the vehicle and was happy that everything was ok. Should he only get paid for his expertise when there is actually a problem? That is a great way to encourage mechanics to always find a problem.

    Do you really think your quick checks are the same as what he did? Do you check the bushes and links? Can you tell when a little movement is ok and when it is not? Can you tell the difference between an oil leak and oil sweat? Because if you can't, then you will do the checks yourself right up until the point where the car stops running because of the things you didn't know to check.

    The problem is that in the old days people had an idea of what a service was. Today oils are better and last a lot longer, so many manufacturers decoupled the idea of inspections and oil changes. You should get the vehicle inspected regularly, but that doesn't mean it always needs the oil changed at the same time.

    For €60 you have an honest mechanic who appears to have been looking after you and your response is to find a way to never go back to him. Doesn't make sense to me.

    And yes, there is nothing worse than somebody saying they could have done it themselves. If you could then you would.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,732 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,966 ✭✭✭corks finest


    😂😂obviously

    You’d expect most ppl to have a wrench set etc

    But good point

    Tbf I don’t need much to service my hybrid

    My Sealey vacuum pump has paid for itself over n over the last 8/10 years



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,283 ✭✭✭kirving


    Certain things will have a set interval, based on either milage and/or time, but that is based of of a statistical average of all cars, and is usually very conservative.

    ie: if an oil filter should statistically last for 30,000km on an average car, they will recommend changing it at 15,000km - which in all likelihood will cover 99.9%.

    Some cars can detect that the oil quality is reducing, if it's being driven hard, in a cold environment, etc, and call for an oil change earlier if necessary - so that means the manufacturer can push out the "standard" interval to 30,000km and save you money.

    Other stuff, again statistically, will last an average length of time and should at least be checked every so often because the car can't detect it automatically (eg: rubber hoses, suspension joints, brake discs).

    You're paying the mechanic for their experience in making that judgement call. I think €60 is okay value for a once-over check that nothing serious needs attention, and you can have a bit of confidence in the car for the next 7,000km until you do need the oil change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭Curse These Metal Hands


    He didn't describe it was a "quick check." He just misspelled quid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,836 ✭✭✭✭banie01




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,283 ✭✭✭kirving


    Why only 3,000? Oil change intervals on my last car were the guts of 30,000km.

    Agreed with 95% of that. The only thing I'd say on your very last point, is that it's galling for me to hand over $1,000 to a dealer to do oil, filters, and spark plugs, which I actually can do myself, but I have to go to the dealer so as to avoid any warranty issues down the line.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,943 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Yes, the real galling part would be that there is no legal basis for a manufacturer to refuse warranty if you get the service done locally, as long as the mechanic is a registered business and is using genuine parts.

    Any dealer pulling that scam should be called out on it immediately.

    Goodwill coverage is a different matter of course, I don't see any issue with dealers giving goodwill to their own customers only.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,228 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    One time most people/households would have had a few basic tools/kits etc but a wrench set would be beyond many and nowadays with the less practical youngsters coming up, many wouldn't even know how to use basic tools.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭JVince


    Person gets an honest mechanic and complains.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,943 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    I don't know, don't underestimate the LIDL middle isle and the amount of tool kits it has pumped out over the years.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,966 ✭✭✭corks finest


    bought a jack from either Lidl or Aldi years back

    It collapsed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,283 ✭✭✭kirving


    While there are similar right-to-repair laws where I am (USA), and I do understand that the manufacturer needs some type of evidence that the work was done by a competent person, but that really precludes me from doing it myself (and indy's aren't much cheaper tbh).

    It's just that dealers and indy's are charging a fortune, and it genuinely is work that I can do myself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,943 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    I'm in the industry so get lucky with company cars and all that, but for my own cars I prefer not to play that game. The money I save by not bringing everything to main dealers has far outweighed any repairs I have had to pay for myself, enough of those €1000 services add up to a sizeable pot of money saved.

    I know I could get burned by a major repair sometime but even then I think I will end up ahead. Especially since I know enough to call out dealers that try to tell me something isn't covered when I already know it should be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭Neilw


    I hope it isn’t a car that suffers oil related engine problems, wet belt, timing chain issues and so on.

    IMO you should be at least getting the oil changed once a year regardless of the small amount of miles you do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭itsacoolday


    I got a step ladder from Lidl years ago. It collapsed too and I have never trusted middle isle stuff since.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,943 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Something to think about.

    Back in the 90's, to pick a decade, people did services every 7k or 10k, or later on perhaps every 15k. That was the accepted wisdom.

    Back then you were probably using 15w40 mineral oil in your engine.

    Today you have fully synthetic oils, 0w20 is common now, refined as **** and all the impurities removed.

    So why would the oil change interval still be every 7k or 10k?

    As an example, the 10w30 oil in trucks running to Europe and back is specced to run for 100k with no problem whatsoever.

    Maybe a council gritter doing 500 miles a year should get the oil changed just because its sitting idle for so long, but a new vehicle doing 3/4k a year? I would be more worried out the mechanical components than I would be about the oil.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭Banjo Carney


    There's no way I would leave a car go 18 months without an oil and filter change. I don't care how efficient modern oils are or what intervals manufacturers recommend. Maybe that's just me though. I'm not a mechanic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,385 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    You could have done it yourself, but you didn't. Not sure why you think that's relevant in how much you were charged.
    He did you a favour and tbh I'm really not sure what the complaint about. Did you expect to pay less than 60 quid?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,283 ✭✭✭kirving


    In either case, what was Lidl's response? Did you take it further legally?

    Lidl stuff might not bet absolute top quality, but it does have to meet the relevant CE legislation.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭itsacoolday


    The step ladder was a number of years old and no receipt was kept for it. It was a good few years ago too. If it was brought back they probably would have said it was outside its guarantee period and should no longer have been used because of wear and tear. Maybe I should have brought it back, but I am not the litigous type. Just bought another step -ladder elsewhere, which did not "separate".

    Back to the thread, I just pay a garage for the service, whatever it is I do not care. When I was young I done an oil change myself a few times, but much prefer to have the dealer stamp in the log book now when trading in etc.



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