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The Last of Us - Werewolf Edition

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,224 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭Neowise


    Okay, i'll bite.

    Let see what it says.

    Only those outside the camp (the six selected and any scavengers travelling to/from a location) are available for the kills or converts… unless….

    Should Joel select an infected for either detail then they will be able to infiltrate the camp and kill or convert who they choose.

    Okay. I can see how they refers to the infected person, and if they dead, well, they can be doing any infiltrating or converting.

    I still think strawbs is wolf, so they were able to infiltrate last night.

    I agree that yoss is likely good.

    alright. if joel picks 3 good, then only those four could be dead or converted tonight.

    I can see this as being true. And I can understand you fighting this stance. Yeah, i was thinking, is wm always this wolfie, but i just wasn't seeing it from your pov. now i do.

    okay. where we go from here. do you not think starwbs is a wolf (infected)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭wrestlemaniac


    No need for sorry, that's a question I'd be asking of someone too.

    Big fan of yoss' posting today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    stop stating this as fact. All we know is that the same conditions probably apply today as yesterday (assuming no more mushrooms in the groups). May be everyone or may be the five. Difficult to test without badly hitting our numbers though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭lorcand1990


    Well i agree with you on yoss prob good anyway



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Ectoplasm


    I'm not infected 😁. I've even suggested today that me strawbs and trit should be looked at, but I think it benefits the wolves to make the assumption that it's limited to just us 5. And it is an assumption that you're making - you've not offered anything concrete as to why you're right and I'm wrong. I'm good with being policy lynched if it makes sense - but I'm wary of pushing the idea that we are the only 5 potential infected if that's not true.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭lorcand1990


    I'd be on board for a strawbs yeet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,872 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    kill or convert who they choose.

    I don't agree with the interpretation above; IMO, the "they" referenced at the end of this sentence is the wolves collectively so I think it follows that the earlier "they" also references the wolves collectively.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭wrestlemaniac


    @Ectoplasm tell me why I'm wrong.

    Do you agree dead is dead?

    If you do, use that as your starting point as to why I am correct



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,872 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Here's my FFA:

    ShaneU - hasn't many posts but the few that he has haven't been great. Weak reasoning for voting Crinkley last night
    Strawbs - mostly because of beaker's soft defence of Strawbs to Neo
    jayo/WM - mostly because of their stance that the conversion was likely to be among the 5 players
    Neowise - not because I feel he's wolfy but I'm fairly certain he'd be close to top of everyone's list to convert as he tends to lead the village; I appreciate that this is a pick based on meta but it can't be ignored either

    If I was voting now, I think it would be on ShaneU



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭wrestlemaniac


    @lorcannd1990

    Listen i could be wrong on ecto as the convert as I just don't know.

    Read the OP, read announcements, we are between the 5 tonight. It's still a shot in the dark that we get it right, but I prefer the odds of lynching amongst 5 than amongst all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭wrestlemaniac




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Ectoplasm


    I'm not so much saying that you're wrong (apart from the bit about me being a convert because there you are wrong) as I am saying that I don't think you can know that you're right, based on the use of the word 'they'. You are assuming the 'they' refers strictly to the infected person on the detail. I am suggesting that 'they' is referring to the infected collectively…in other words, if Joel selects an infected, the infected can target anyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭lorcand1990


    My ffa

    Shane c.. very quiet yesterday, a bit more active today but haven't seen anything helping the village to put him in my good book. Could've gone shaneu for similar reasons but their vote yesterday with beaker is leaning me possible good on them

    Strawbs. Again, so quiet, not helping the village, nothing productive really

    Neo. At the risk of encouring their wrath I'm not liking their posting at all, not sitting right with me. Don't need a discussion on this neo but you're on my ffa so deal with it

    Vote will prob go between Shane c and strawbs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭lorcand1990


    Just did an ffa there. She's super dooper quiet, not helping the village at all

    Last game she was like that she was a wolf



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,224 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    with the gun:

    1. i can give it to lord - he can then shoot me or leggy, or hope to return back to camp with it and shoot anyone.
    2. i can give it to leggy - he can then shoot me or lord, or hope to return back to camp with it and shoot anyone.
    3. i can shoot lord or leggy, or hope to return back to camp with it and shoot anyone.

    so one of us will be killed or converted in the morning IMO. lets just hope they dont choose the one with the gun.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 22,013 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    I can't be yeeted so this isn't biased - it is possible that the mushrooms can kill or convert any poster they choose as long as one of them is chosen by Joel. Joel choose Liz yesterday and Beaker today, I think the other(s) could infiltrate based on them being picked regardless of them being killed. Remember, they can communicate.

    It might really be playing to the mushrooms advantage to yeet one of the 3/5 available today if they converted elsewhere.

    We also won't always know if a mushroom is in the group unless we kill one every day, but if they have infiltrated Jackson that's irrelevant.

    So, yeet one of the 3 today, if they flip village do we line up everyone that's been sent out and yeet them in order?

    There's currently 5 of us in total, another 6 tomorrow, 6 more the day after that etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,224 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    on reflection , i should have stayed quite about the gun and tried to bring it back to camp.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 22,013 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    You're between 3, Yoss, lord and I can't be yeeted while we're out scavenging.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,995 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    While I don’t like Strawbs general lack of contribution, I was signalling pretty strongly overnight that I’d peeked Beaker and he was bad. And I genuinely don’t believe Beaker is the type of player who’d miss that. The utter lack of response from him, when he’s the type who’d read everything being posted, means I think he was aware a pre-munch reveal was very likely. Hell, he was even talkin about 9.59 reveals

    so….if the wolves knew id caught Beaker….would Strawbs really have been likely to shove Beaker as her second most trusted villager in the game? That’s a massive double bluff if so….



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,073 ✭✭✭✭ShaneU


    There were confirmed infected in both scavenging groups (Liz and BJ) Doesn't this mean anyone out side of both groups of 6 could have been converted?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭Neowise




  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 22,013 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Yoss will still be out, are you sure more won't be sent?

    So yeet Lord, Leggy, Ecto, Strawbs, Trit, Yoss, the 3 security from tonight. That's 9 yeets, if the conversions are outside that group it's game over. If 2 of us were infected you could theoretically have 7 misyeets before finding those 2.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Ectoplasm


    State of play for myself:

    ALIVE Tuesday 17:47

    ShaneU

    FixXxer

    Shane.C

    Duffman13

    MacDanger

    jayo44

    wrestlemaniac

    Neowise

    lorcand1990

    Ectoplasm: On guard Mon night

    StrawbsM: On guard Mon night

    tritium: : On guard Mon night

    Leg End Reject: Ineligible for vote

    Lord TSC: : Ineligible for vote

    y0ssar1an22: : Ineligible for vote

    15 Alive: 12 eligible for vote. If wm is correct, only me, Strawbs and Trit are eligible to/for vote AND potential converts. If I'm correct, all 12 potential converts.

    Someone else needs to do the maths - does it benefit the village to make this assumption?

    In the 15, we have Marlene and N infected (min 1, max 2 imo) with rest village. So 2 v 1 v 12 or 1 v 1 v 13.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭wrestlemaniac


    If it's dead it's dead!

    I've laboured on the point and tried to explain why I believe my thought process is correct.

    You can lead people to water but you can't make them drink it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭Neowise


    It all depends on how you interpret this sentence.

    Should Joel select an infected for either detail then they¹ will be able to infiltrate the camp and kill or convert who they² choose.

    How do you interpret they¹ and/or they²?

    It really has the camp divided, and i don't think either side is wolf motivated.

    Would you do me a favor and pm the host and see if they will give you clarification.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,224 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭Neowise


    everybody is back tomorrow morning. we will have plenty of supplies, no need to send out any tomorrow, just the 3 guards on duty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,073 ✭✭✭✭ShaneU




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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,995 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Do you think Joel has the option to send no one? Given scavengers were told the locations would be forcefully picked at random if they didn’t pick one, and it’s a mechanic tied to yeeting/munching, I’d have presumed Joel HAS to send people out on scavenging details. I can’t see the mechanics allowing the village to sandbag it.


    plus, scavenging provides the chance to get things to help the village, and already helped gun down a wolf. Kind of feels we need to scavenge to take the risk and make sure we don’t get overwhelmed by infections.



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