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How Did You Score? - 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,685 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Fair play Space , very envious - you seem to get great bang for your book , return on practice and effort. Whatever metric I'm trying to dream up here.

    Basically efficiency of practice.

    If I consider myself - I could go to the range for say 3 times a week - get lessons - practice short game - play a good bit of golf . My game could get worse. I just find golf so hard. Hardest sport I ever did to get better , if you cycle for a month , play pool for a month, swim , play anything for a month - you get better. In golf you go out and are so frustrated - you buy a golf club.

    Lol



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,542 ✭✭✭VW 1


    Played a 9 holes stableford comp this morning and had 18 points. Was playing very well, including 4 x 3 pointers on 12-15. A single point on par 4 17 after being pin high for 2and a scratch on the par 5 18th did me in, missed a prize on count back to add insult to injury.

    Have been playing regularly over the winter, combined with a couple of lessons and some range time and it feels like it's starting to come together. That said, it can fall apart just as quickly :D



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,245 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,618 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    I play off 5 and I shot level par for 12 holes in Athlone on Monday last.

    Just played really solid golf and made a few putts.

    The only disappointing thing was….. as its a winter course, my handicap reduces from 5 down to 3.

    And then I discover that 2 of my 3 shots are on holes that are closed. So actually, I only have 1 shot over the 12 holes and 25 points for 12 holes just aint gonna cut it for a prize.

    But still, it was nice to shoot level par :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,245 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    something wrong there

    You should get 2 shots on the 2 toughest holes. Ie your 18 hole handicap is 3 so you get ⅔ of that, being 2.

    it’s wrong to just use the 18 hole card for the indexes. Use shots on the 2 hardest holes being played or better still if you play the 12 hole course much you really should have a 12 hole card?


    still, great shooting 👏



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  • Administrators Posts: 55,018 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    You surely must have a card for 12 holes or whatever other hole number that gets played semi-regularly? 

    Using the 18 hole card for 12/13/15 or whatever would surely be an absolute nightmare for the card checkers? DQs all over the place for people making mistakes on the card I would have thought.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭boccy23


    So in the opposite realm, I had 11 points off 5 for a 9-hole comp yesterday. First day out for a month. Knocked the first drive, OB on another hole and 3 putted from about 10 feet. Good times!

    Roll on next Saturday in Portmarnock. Game is in top shape.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,245 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    not quite

    You are only responsible for recording your score

    If you put wrong points down, that is irrelevant. In fact you don’t have to put any points at all down on the card


    (except at a boards outing or I’ll kill ya 😂)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,618 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    The 12 holes in play changes every few weeks as we rest different holes so it wouldn't be feasible to make loads of different cards. Plus, with the damage from Storm Eowyn they were the only holes we could have played

    Just luck of the draw (or bad luck) if you will 😊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,618 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    We have the comps set up on the computer, so it helps with the admin 😊



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    34 points playing of 8 at Mount Wosley over the weekend. Good scoring considering I was terrible off the tee. Barley made it over the wall on the first, water on the 4th, lost ball on the 5th and water on 18. The majority of my drives we just weak and slicey. I'm trying to change from hitting a draw to a fade and I'm definitely struggling. I just resorted to half swing fairway finders to get me around on most holes, which left me a long way back unfortunately.

    But my short game was immense thankfully, 8 up and downs (6 pars rescued) and only 30 putts in total.

    Highlight of the day, a flushed 6 to the heart of the par 3 16th, to leave 2 foot birdie putt…….which i just about made 🙉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,245 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    yea but you should still get 2 shots over 12 holes



  • Administrators Posts: 55,018 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


     I'm trying to change from hitting a draw to a fade and I'm definitely struggling.

    Don't think I've heard of an amateur player trying to make this change. What's the reasoning?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,905 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    "You can talk to a fade, but a hook won't listen" as Mr Trevino says.

    Our own Golfgraffix went to this with the Driver.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    Space beat me to it, there’s just no reasoning with a poor drive when you’re setting up to draw it.

    I don’t play near enough golf as I used too, and the last 18 months when I have got on the course, I’ve spent the first 9 holes trying to get comfortable with the driver. But the snap hooks left, and huge pushes right were becoming too frequent, and left me with zero confidence with the big stick as I’d no idea if my miss was going to be right or left.

    So, I spoke to my local pro, told him that my time on the course was not what he used to be, and I was trying to simplify things. So we spent the winter working on a much more straightforward set-up, working the ball from left to right. I sacrifice some distance, especially if I don’t flush it, but I’d much prefer the consistency. The transition had been quite smooth until Sunday where I just never felt comfortable on the tee box all day, it’s the first time that’s happened since the change. But the main consolation from it, I still walked away with 34 points. And the water ball on 18th was just a brain fart in alignment from the tee. The strike was actually decent.

    If I’d a day like that from the tee with my old set up, I’d be lucky to have 25 points and I’d have gone through 2 if not 3 sleeves of balls!



  • Administrators Posts: 55,018 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Fair enough, it's interesting as I was trying to do the opposite and move from a fade to a draw!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    Yes, you can see that most of the time. A lot of us amateurs tend to have huge over the top swings which can lead to massive slices. So, if you go to a pro with this issue, he will most likely get you set up to try hit the opposite and start drawing the ball.

    I personally didn’t have that swing flaw. I was just going down the route of trying to hit as easy go to, left to right fairway finder, with a very basic / simplistic set up. My old driver swing, I would be set up to try and stripe the paint from the ball to try perfect this high draw. And when I was playing often, and in sync, it worked a charm 95% of the time, I didn’t even have to think about it. Now I don’t play near as much, I find my old swing problematic, and when I tried to tame it down, I would only strike it worse. It was a real all or noting set up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,685 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Interesting change in thread. You can definitely change from a fade to a draw. Is easier to hit a fade alright, as was said most of us a bit OTT . If you go to a pro , he could change you after about 3 or 4 weeks , but many people believe you just tend to end up back in your natural state. Particularly amateurs - are we really going to go all Faldo on it and take yourself out for a full season and be ****.

    There is another factor with the modern equipment - yes it makes the game easier , but the ability to shape the ball at all has been massively diminished - unless you use a bias , another modern phenonium.

    I personally am not love the spin and feel of modern drivers - dead, low spin , horrible sound.

    For all the advancement - modern equipment has taken a bit of fun out of ball flight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭bobster453


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 749 ✭✭✭bakerbhoy


    Modern hot faced irons are harder to intentionally shape

    Straight and high. No problem.

    That's their built in bias.

    Regret changing my i200 irons.

    I could move the ball around with those suckers.

    May go back that direction next set.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,685 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Would be a good thread on its own - but If I think off all the times I had a shot that gave me incredible joy , it was when you intentionally hit a shape. Very hard to do that now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭Sorbet


    Apologies if this is a basic question but I’ve only recently been learning about the ball flight physics from Adam Young’s book after a recommendation on here. I’ve been experimenting on the range with drawing off the tee with the driver. When I’m trying to hit the ball straight with the driver I can miss both ways. I’ve found that by intentionally trying to close the club face a little for a draw I find that even if I don’t do it perfectly I’m finding my miss isn’t as extreme and dispersion reduced I.e. if I’m trying to close the club face realistically at worst if I leave it open it won’t be as open as it could have been if I’m trying to come back square. Apart from shaping to get around an obstacle or for a hole shape - is this reduction of dispersion a valid approach for drawing or fading as opposed to trying to go straight or do I have this all wrong?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭bobster453


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,905 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    Arguably if you can consistently hit one shape then it should mean a tight enough dispersion. But to be fair, if you can hit it straight, I think that's the shape if want my stock shot to be.

    It's good to be able to shape the ball, to me at least, just in terms of golf skill and ability to control the club-face, your swing, and ball-flight, even if you ultimately just hit the same shape all the time. I'll often, at a range session, try hit different shapes and flights with a single club.

    But look at some of the low guys on here and with the society. Alanm got to a +1 basically just hitting fades through his bag.

    For me, I probably tend towards looking for a draw with driver, because I can tend to hit a high floaty flared slicy flight when I have a bad swing day hitting fades with it.

    But I tend towards hitting fades with my irons, as it gives me more consistency on distance and flight.

    But Fix is right, the shots that stick in my memory in general are ones where I have had to, and deliberately did hitba specific shape.

    Best shot I hit in 2024, no-one playing with me probably even knew I hit it. But i hit it perfectly. And the thought I had in my head was..."if a tour player hit this, they'd be showing replays of that flight."

    Was in Druids Glen. Hit a terrible 3w off the tee, pulled and down under trees, in an area with basically no grass, just that tight firm muck type lie that you getin Winter. Had about 175 yards in, trees in front of me and overhanging out to the right, with the ground raised in a slope in front of me. Had to hit it with about 15 yards of draw, and the ball had to be hit above probably 6ft (to clear the slope) but below 10ft (to stay under the overhanging branches).

    I hit exactly that, with a 5i, in to about 10ft...missed the putt 😁

    For every 1 of those you hit though, you make sh1t of the other attempts at the same thing. Was a hero shot, and was in a matchplay round where I was chasing the hole. In a scoring round I probably would have taken my medicine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,685 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Was it the 7th in druids glen...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,905 ✭✭✭spacecoyote




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,685 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    You underestimate me brother Rabbitte..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,905 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    should have known you'd remember a well flighted shot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 749 ✭✭✭bakerbhoy


    Had one of those recently.. 210 to center.. 40yd hook required . Aim line was par 3 green to right under a large bough 30 yds ahead.

    My latest version of 3 wood in hand. Audience in a skins match. No pressure😀

    Back one ball length.Could not have struck it better. Pitched a yard shy and popped up onto green. Result 2 putt par and 3 skins.

    New 3 wood makeup . Picked up a max version of my Aerojet but with a different shaft.

    Using the 12grm weight instead of the 10 grm of original combined with the shaft from the max into original.

    I think i have found it ''the one''. Its longer , more consistant and i can flight and shape it.. I hope i haven't angered the gods ...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭IrishOwl...


    Hitting fades is the "easier" shot, if such thing exists in golf. I do have a stock fade I like to try hit with my driver, it’s a fairly simple action and will get you in play 99% of the time. However, it’s about 40 yards shorter than my usual driving action, where I set up to draw it. But I’ll still use that fade a few times a round, especially on short par 4’s or dog leg holes. Ill also go with it if I haven’t played in a while and I’m feeling rusty standing on the tee box.



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