Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

And yet we also saw Rashford having a 30 goal season followed by an 8 goal season, at the same club with the same manager. And also the same pattern of inconsistency under other managers too.

There are many problems at United, no doubt. But the only person to blame for Marcus Rashford's issues is Marcus Rashford. And to see people using him as the stick to beat the current manager with is hilarious.

I find it funny that some outlets/people are making out that it's a negative for United that Antony and Rashford have started well at their new clubs. I hope they both absolutely rip it up from now until the end of the season and United can maximise anything they can get for both of them.

At the end of the day, both of them have shown over a prolonged period of time that they're not up to scratch for United, so the more effective they play on loan elsewhere the better for all concerned.

Maybe the pressure of playing for United is to tough for them. Can have all the ability in the world but the scrutiny at United seems more intense than any other club.

Emery is a great coach but after watching last nights match it looks like he’s falling into the same trap a lot of previous managers have with Rashford and tried to play him through the middle. He did drift out to the left at times but was interesting to see him through the middle when we all have seen how that experiment usually goes.

Lol, comms.

Haven't even watched it all, just got to the "climax" of the manager's introduction and had to share. Brilliant.

Would nearly be better playing away given the Old Trafford form of late.

And Man City getting Salford, Leyton Orient and now Plymouth lol

Southampton recently played United off the park. And they're not the only ones, it's been a feature of this team for a while that the opposition play better than us.

As for the 6 wins in 8, four of those 6 wins came from Leicester, Southampton, Rangers and Steaua Bucharest. If you're not beating them the way they are at the minute, you may as well give up. The other wins were a just about-there win against Fulham in one of the worst games of quality this season, and a good win against Arsenal in the cup on penalties after holding out against a barrage from them for an hour where they could have scored 4/5 if they had a striker. It's hardly the most exhilarating run of victories. One top performance in 8 games, and even at that we seriously rode our luck.

Given we don't seem to get be able to play better in general as other teams, and struggle in the main to get wins against team, I would say we're the worst coached team in the league, relative to what we have.

What we do have, unlike Southampton, Leicester, Ipswich and one or two others, is some real quality that can turn a game in a moment. And it's those individual moments that have kept us going and separated us from the teams propping up the table.

And that's what's frustrating, because if they have the quality to make those moments happen, then there's obviously something there to work with.

And yet, we're not seeing. We're not seeing it because we're a poorly coached team. We have no real plan. Southampton, Ipswich, Wolves play to a plan, know what they're doing, they just lack any type of quality to make use of it. Yet we do have the quality, and struggle against them. Teams with arguably less quality than us, like Bournemouth, Fulham, Brighton, Palace and Brentford, are ahead of us in the table after 24 games.

So yeah, relative to the talent teams have, I think we're the worst coached team in the league, and the results and (arguably more indicative) the performances have shown that this season. We have the quality others don't and yet in general play worse than them. That's a coaching issue, and needs to be addressed.

I know Amorim said there'd be pain, and there was never going to be a quick fix to the mess that is United, but you'd have expected to see some form of plan and settled team by now, and certainly better performances.

I don't think it matters all that much for us to get Fulham or Plymouth to be honest
Our players will make hard work of both.

Their level seems to almost move with the opponent.

Play Leicester / Southampton - play terrible and devoid of ideas.
Play Liverpool / Arsenal - play OK and show some decent football at times.

Southampton were blown away by Spurs inside 20 minutes (played off the park by most teams all season) and we were played off the park by them. That's not just a case of us finding it more difficult when a team sits back or the players finding it slightly more difficult to get the motivation going.

There's something deeper rooted there