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Eurovision Song Contest 2025 - Mod warning in the OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 560 ✭✭✭JKerova1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,046 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    People are missing a very significant issue about this song.

    Firstly I admit it’s catchy in that dumb, moronic euro dance style.

    BUT…. it has nothing, zero, zilch, nada Irish about it.

    It is a simplistic song about a RUSSIAN dog that was sent to space and subsequently died in space. Pretty depressing.

    Anti Russian sentiment is very high across Europe, particularly Eastern Europe.

    I just can’t see people voting for a song celebrating a RUSSIAN space achievement.

    The animal rights/vegan crowd won’t like it either.

    TLDR: Absolutely bizarre that Ireland is sending a Norwegian act to sing a song celebrating a Russian space mission, with nothing distinctly Irish about it whatsoever.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,046 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    No fan of “Bambi Thug” but was willing to let her rip doing something completely different last year.

    But she and her team did ruin Ireland’s chances of winning through her behaviour on and off stage last year.

    Even on Friday it was like she was “off her face” on benzos or something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭supereurope


    You forgot the final piece of the annual Linda quote: "I think they can go all the way."

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭supereurope


    I think Malta's defence is that "Kant" happens to be the Maltese word for "Sing", so it might be minefield for the EBU to say Malta can't use a word in their own language because it sounds like a rude word in English (though we all know exactly what Malta is doing.) There's a part in Iceland's 1987 entry where it sounds like she's singing "Anus in the air."

    I think Kant is horrible, but Malta has a history of changing its song, so I wouldn't bet the house on it being performed in Basel. And tbf, if it does go, I don't blame Malta for trying something like this, they've had a few years in the doldrums.

    Ukraine's entry is the worst they've sent in quite a few years, but if Ukraine knows how to do anything, it's how to stage a song and sell it to audiences, so it'll easily qualify.

    I think I like Latvia's song, it's like a more accessible version of Poland's 2019 entry, and that only just missed out on qualification. Nice to also see Latvia sending a song in their own language, they've only done that once before (2004.)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,402 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    You're misreading the intent of the song somewhat. Laika is the hero of the song - the Soviet space programme doesn't even get a mention. Everything is written from the dog's perspective. Also, Emmy says it is a reimagining of what happened in 1957, Laika is sent into space and doesn't actually die…..a fictionalised alternative outcome so to speak.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭Libertine07


    Exactly, it's not celebrating Russia by any stretch of the imagination! If anything it draws attention to what a horrible thing they did to the poor dog.

    To that other poster's point, Bambie was never likely to actually win so their 'behaviour' had nothing to do with the result. The majority of the public voting, and the jurors, wouldn't have known too much about the incidents in the build up anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,046 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Sorry now but no offence but When Europeans especially Eastern European’s hear “Laika” the link to USSR and Russia is instant.

    Why oh why has Ireland of all countries entered a song celebrating Laika ???

    it’s a huge insult to Ukraine not to mention the other countries that were destroyed by decades of Official Russia of which Laika was macabre propaganda.

    It will be seen as a mad choice and bizarre on reeling in the years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,046 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    People need to realise singing a song praising anything Russia related is not going to go down well.

    And especially coming from Ireland which has nothing to do with Laika. It’s all so pointless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,212 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    yeah… so…..

    My partner is from Lithuania (a country that celebrates 2 (two) independence days from Russia/USSR) she fcuking despises Russia (as I do), but she absolutely loves the Laika Party song, and sees absolutely no connection between a harmless pop song and Russia.

    Most of the reaction she’s seen online from home is also largely positive towards the song.

    So you are miles light years off the mark



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭Libertine07


    You're being ridiculous.

    Remembering Laika and imagining a happier end for her is not celebrating Russia. I honestly can't figure out why you would think it is.

    Any criticism I've seen online from fans around Europe is that the song is too basic, not their cup of tea, not Irish enough, etc. Absolutely nobody thinks it's a celebration of Russia or a dig at Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,512 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    To echo posters on here, I am surprised at how weak this year’s Ukraine entry is. Will need a hell of a stage show to qualify for the grand final.

    Loving Malta, not just for the Netta vibes, but for the fact that I am a complete sucker for women in leopard print. Especially, plus-size women in leopard print. Especially, plus-size women in leopard print riding a space hopper. 🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,109 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭supereurope


    Samantha has taken her loss well…

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭Libertine07


    She's arguing with people in the comments too, not a good look.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    Absolutely. And rte should be letting the official Eurovision YouTube channel livestream it too as other countries are. Get building the online profile of the song early.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Laika Party charted at #29 on the Irish Spotify top 50 yesterday, which is good to see. This will likely drop in the next couple of days, and probably not reappear again until Eurovision week, but it still shows that there's greater public engagement with our entries than before. Before Bambie, none of our recent entries generated any traction on Spotify, so it's good to see.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,402 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    From memory, some of them took issue with the actual song, not with her performance. But it was fair commentary surely - the song was a bit messy and unstructured.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,212 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Mumba has obviously decided that her poor performance among the voting public is down to what the panel said (the truth in fairness), and is taking her poor public voting out on them, when in reality, even if the panel had gushed over her, the public vote would have been largely unaffected. (we are sick of sending utter bland sh1te).

    I guess she's also quite upset as this was her chance possibly at another comeback.. and it's gone now.

    Anyway I wonder who Louis will put forward next year? hopefully they're good enough to warrant the maximum points the international jury will be awarding them..

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭supereurope


    I know that the act Louis Walsh will submit to Eurosong next year will be young, good looking and can sing. And I think they can go all the way.



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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,682 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Obviously had she won, Samantha would still feel the same and released the same statement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,212 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    a judging panel that didn't actually vote, so essentially they were pundits. and she's still blaming them..

    Stay Classy Samantha. What times the flight back to L.A.?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,420 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Maybe that attitude is partly why we haven't heard about her in two decades…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,630 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    that Maltese song is hilarious, obviously hoping for strong votes from Australia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭LordBasil


    LOL at Samantha!!!

    I think the best package for Eurovision won on Friday.

    Adgy's song didn't go anywhere.

    Fire was too weak and Reylta came across quite arrogant in her VT.

    Bobbi Arlo's performance wasn't strong enough and she looked like Netta's evil twin. I think the public didn't want another edgy, alternative queer artist straight after Bambie.

    What was Samantha thinking with the Irish dancing? The song was too incoherent to do well.

    NIYL's outfit and makup was atrocious. He should have kept the performance more earthy and grounded, he should have basically had Reylta's staging. He sang well but looked panicked which cost him jury points.

    Emmy's performance was good and the most Eurovision ready. The staging in Basel needs to be ambitious and imaginative, like Doomsday Blue last year, for the song to do well. Emmy seems lovely so we won't have to deal with dramatics that Bambie was guilty of last year. Hopefully she has some contacts from her time in MGP to call on to help with her staging. I can see the staging being similar to 'Give that wolf a banana' & 'My AI'. I think she'll open SF2 which at least means if she qualifies, she won't open the final. Beyond that who knows…

    As for the other entries selected over the weekend:

    Finland - Great to see Erika get to Eurovision, I like the song but don't love it. I can see it doing reasonably well with the televote but not the juries.

    Ukraine - probably their weakest entry since 2017. They'll qualify but not do much in the final. Any votes they get will mainly be diaspora.

    Malta - A guilty pleasure. Malta are kind of like Ireland pre-Bambie, sending middle of the road pop that gets ignored. They needed to take a risk. I think it will qualify if the staging is beefed up and do quite well in the televote, juries on the other hand….

    Latvia - A very strange choice. It reminds me of Blanca Paloma's entry for Spain in 2023 that did terribly in the televote. They only came 3rd in the NF televote which doesn't bode well for televote only semifinal. NQ

    Interesting week ahead with San Remo starting tomorrow night. Does Italy have a contender?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭balanced24


    fair play to Samantha, you can be critiqued by your peers no problem but these are not her peers. They were hanging around the RTÉ canteen, Arthur is the weakest link on DWTSIRL and has to shout J’adore just to seem relevant. I miss Julian, I wish he was well enough to come back.

    The panel could be former winners or at least who have gone to Eurovision. I think focusing on staging is reductive as that will be changed and is usually out of the artists control even Bambie had to calm down the other three by saying the dancers can go. Imagine being the singer/songwriter and a panel is criticising the back up dancers, who were clearly just amateur kids in most instances.

    Samantha had a creative director who would have designed the production and I agree she shouldn’t have Irish danced the men could have circled her giving her a chance to breathe but this was staging for the Eurosong not the Eurovision.

    Her performance and Emmy’s and the Donegal siblings were a league above the others. I watched Malta last night for Kant and that was like an actual Eurovision qualifier. Ireland needs to up its came, give all the entries a budget and access to professional directors, choreographers and dancers etc

    Also there needs to be more transparency on how the six were picked in the first instance, I may have missed that.

    Niamh, Eimear and Linda with Bambie would have been a better panel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,505 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Here Mumbas performance

    Laura called her an icon, Skeehan said it was an honour, they all said it started too slow including Bambi. Arthur said 10 demos in one…

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,212 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Linda was on the panel for years and years…. the same years and years we sent absolute scut and frequently came last in our SF…

    No thanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭balanced24


    the panel don’t have a vote so you can’t blame her.

    I just mentioned they had a panel there in those 4 instead of rooting out the 3 others from the canteen. Save money on the panel and pay the acts money for costumes or more rehearsals etc instead of jobs for RTÉ staff



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭supereurope


    Linda Martin might just be the worst thing to ever happen to Ireland at Eurovision. Had she been kept away from Eurosong at the beginning of the 21st century, I suspect Ireland would have had much better results over the last 25 years. All she did was support either the safest act possible or the Louis Walsh act (which most years was the same act), and people listened to her (for a while anyway) because they thought she was an expert as she had won the contest.

    And just to stick the knife in further, Why Me? should never have won in the first place. 1992 was a dreadful contest with no decent songs, the BBC wasted the wonderful Michael Ball with a dated SAW-type song, and the juries decided to swoon over Johnny Logan. I will admit, however, that Terminal 3 should have won.



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