Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

AidoEirE · 07-02-2025 10:41PM

Seen a still pic on reddit, theres a Leicester player behind Zirkzee, you can see the black socks in between Zirkzees legs which look to be in front of Maguire, not clear cut though.

Will take the win either way.

mcburns07 · 07-02-2025 10:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123146556#Comment_123146556

Exactly, all in jest 😄

Football at the top is complicated these days, just look at the disfunction of City, largely the same squad that swept all aside last year and they’re struggling big time. Rodri is good but he’s not that good. It’s often very fine margins between doing well and not.

We have to give Amorim time to implement his ideas and whatever money we have to spend to get them to work.

Iseedeadpixels · 07-02-2025 10:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123146783#Comment_123146783

Guarantee there will be some drama to make up for it.

A few possibilities.

Sir Jim fires a struggling mother of 6.
Rashy scores a hattrick for Villa.
Garnacho goes to the U.S possibly dressed like a rapper.
Player sleeps with his sister in law.
Casemiro gives interview to Piers Morgan.
Ugarte 2 foots 3 team mates during rondos and ends their season.
UFO beams down the real Rasmus Hojlund they took a few months back for study!

loyatemu · 07-02-2025 11:03PM

Next manager will come in, put Dalot on the right, Dorgu on the left and be hailed as a tactical genius.

bucketybuck · 07-02-2025 11:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123146486#Comment_123146486

So the people questioning why Ten Hag wouldn't play Amad were wrong, and he was correct?

People question things because infallibility doesn't exist.

bucketybuck · 07-02-2025 11:10PM

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Great, lots of time on the training field then. We should see the benefit of that on the field soon.

bucketybuck · 07-02-2025 11:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123146556#Comment_123146556

Amorims reasons can be as valid and reasoned as he wants, whether he is right and you are wrong depends on what happens on the field.

The history of football is littered with the careers of failed managers who had a plan and thought they knew what they were doing.

nachouser · 07-02-2025 11:26PM

Was this the worst win ever? I can't remember the narrative.

NITRO95 · 08-02-2025 01:54AM

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I was in the stadium and didn't hear any boos at FT. Half Time it was really loud. I personally wasn't booing but I understand why others were.

ngunners · 08-02-2025 08:31AM

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When was the last time we lost this many games at Old Trafford in a season? No harm the crowd letting the players know what is and isn't acceptable.

Brendan Bendar · 08-02-2025 09:33AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123147510#Comment_123147510

Aye…they are paying big bucks to attend so entitled to show their displeasure at certain performances.

Eleusis · 08-02-2025 09:45AM

I wonder is it calculated and instructed by Amorim to start slowly. Keep it tight, dont concede(but they always do), dont expend too much energy. Let the opposition do the running, tire them out then gradually increase the intensity. In post match press conferences, Amorim often eludes to the opposition tiring later in games.

In almost every single game since Amorim has taken charge, we are so much better in the second half. The polar opposite of Ole. Ole team would come out blazing and have great first halfs and then at half time the opposition would adjust tactics and Ole would have no clue how to counter the changes and then in addition we would tire. At least nearly every time Amorim get them at half time, things change for the better.

EDIT: This may also point to poor analysis of the opposition in the back room staff. As he is new tot he league perhaps his backroom team just dont know enough about the opposition, but Amorim learns fast himself after seeing them for 1 half.

Seattle · 08-02-2025 10:34AM

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It doesn’t look or feel intentional to me. You can play with a controlled tempo and still dominate weaker opposition. Instead, we look completely incapable of creating chances through the patterns of play Amorim wants to introduce. It took a one-dimensional "get the ball to Garnacho" approach to turn the game last night.

There seems to be a disconnect between the players and the crowd, and the team struggles to sustain the required intensity from the start of matches.

I’d like to see Dorgu at LWB, Amad at RWB, Garnacho and Fernandes as the 10s, and Zirkzee as the CF. Yes, we’ll lose some control—something Amorim really doesn’t want—but I feel he’s implementing his ideas too quickly. He needs to compromise a little for now and prioritise bringing some excitement back into the team.

PARlance · 08-02-2025 10:46AM

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Extremely wishful thinking that the slow starts are some kind of plan. You only had to look at Amorim in the first half to see his frustration. Fairly worrying that a manager is so frustrated; either the players aren't taking on board his instructions or the instructions aren't clear....or a bit of both, I suppose.

We've been unable to play football against Southampton and Leicester at home. Couldn't get out of our own half against either in the first half. Resorting to lumping balls up to Hojlund, who while can't really be defended, has become a scapegoat of sorts.

Amorim spoke a lot about not losing possession and not being countered when he took over. The build up play is so conservative that it would lead me to believe that the players are too afraid to take a "chance" of playing progressive football. It's like watching a mediocre GAA team lateral pass the life out of you.

When we go behind then there's no option but to chase the game and take a few "risks" by playing the ball forward.

Last night was as bad a display as I've seen. I lost count of how many times Dalot and Dorgu received the call facing Onana's goal and it was almost always passed backwards. Bruno was completely anonymous in the first half, he spent it hiding. Mainoo could have dropped deeper to get on the ball as well.

Just as well Amorim has a bit of a presence about him. It's important, important to keep confident and in power. As someone rightly pointed out, if a Southgate team was serving up what we're seeing, the knives would be out.

kerplun k · 08-02-2025 12:11PM

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Were they Booing or chanting Mainoo?

All_in_Flynn · 08-02-2025 12:15PM

Folks you are going to drive yourselves insane between now and the end of the season questioning every positional movement. Amorim is just trying to get to the summer and will mix and match as best he can week to week. I wouldn't be making any assumptions on where players will eventually settle position wise based on this season. That goes for Yoro, Dalot, Dorgu, Bruno, Mainoo etc etc etc.

We have a decent chance in europe as the pace suits us more but we are going to struggle badly in the league and will take a miracle to win the FA cup. If Shaw and Mount could stay fit then that could change things but that's unlikely.

Seattle · 08-02-2025 12:31PM

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I think he’s at risk of not lasting beyond the summer if results don’t improve. Will they trust him enough to invest heavily in a 3-4-3 rebuild if this form continues for another three months? I sincerely doubt it—he needs some kind of turnaround.

When he was appointed, there would have been a range of expectations. Right now, this is edging toward the worst-case scenario. Performances are rock bottom in a way only few would've expected or even thought possible. I think he will feel this himself by the way.

FourFourRED · 08-02-2025 12:36PM

Picked up a pair of tickets for the derby in April this morning. Still available on the website if anyone else fancies the misery

Quags · 08-02-2025 12:37PM

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Great post and even Amorim is saying it won’t be pretty and we will struggle but some people are expecting miracles. Yes, you would think as Manchester United we should be controlling games against certain teams but we aren’t as good as what some people think. Players we have are either switching off easily or just not learning new tactics which after a couple of years with Ten Hag may take them longer than 3/4 months with Ruben.

Mantis Toboggan · 08-02-2025 12:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123148107#Comment_123148107

I think they will back him as long as he can get us into the top half of the table. But he might get 100 million for 2/3 players that's it, he's going to have to get more out of the current crop.

FrankN1 · 08-02-2025 12:55PM

If we expectations of winning the league, how many of current first team are up to it?

Onana - No

Dalot - No

De Ligt - Potentially ( should be given the fee we paid )

Martinez - Yes

Yoro - Potentially

Dorgu - Who knows

Ugarte - Yes

Mainoo - I think so

Bruno - Yes

Garnacho - Yes if keeps improving

Amad - Yes if keeps improving

Hojlund/Zirkzee - No

PARlance · 08-02-2025 01:13PM

Which league?

Nalz · 08-02-2025 01:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123148176#Comment_123148176

Honestly none of them are yes. Maybe Bruno but the rest are no or showing some potential

Seattle · 08-02-2025 01:27PM

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It's the wrong question to ask imo, too simplistic.

Most of those players could play a role in a title challenging squad if they are used correctly and supplemented with the right profiles. But they clearly don't fit with eachother so some of them are going to have to go.

fatherted1969 · 08-02-2025 01:32PM

Our 4 highest paid players, 3 of them we pay to play for someone else and 4th can barely get a minute. Until this nonsense is purged from the club we're at nothing. Roll on the summer when more frauds are moved on