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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    And China grabbing Siberia parts of which are still on their government maps

    Sure there’s precedent now that grabbing land and ethnic cleansing is a ok

    ethnic Russians are already a minority on their side of Chinese border in Siberia



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    Russians getting new equipment.
    Advanced tactical fighters, armed with surface to air missiles. And increased manovability.

    Topdung


    IMG_1269.jpeg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,841 ✭✭✭yagan


    China's number priority seems to be self containment, so while there's no doubt Chinese business influence in Eastern Russia I'd imagine they'd view very much as a liability. Far better to just let local administration free of Moscow to emerge and then deal with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭junkyarddog


    Another window "Accident"

    What a wonderful country!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,088 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Even better than the F-16 would have been the F-18's Australia offered them which they replaced their own Mirages with. I would really like the inside feed on what went on with the Ukrainians that lead them to saying keep your junk. Australia started following the manufacturers service schedule of rebuilding fuselages but stopped, because they found it to be unnecessary as there was no corrosion as their planes had only been operated from land and so didn't suffer the salt water corrosion problems US planes did.

    Instead of having five F-16s this week, another six 4 months latter and this dribble of aircraft over years, they could have had around 45 aircraft a year earlier than they had the F-16s and a far more suitable platform. Able to operate from all airfields without them being patched and fixed up to billiard table smoothness specs; able to use motorways for dispersal; able to use a wider range of US ordnance and carry more of it per mission…

    The US could likely have been persuaded to upgrade the radars to the AN/APG-79 in the superhornets and they could have then had at Orc aircraft in BVR encounters and so likely spoiled their glide bomb usage. The radars in the Dutch F-16 have half the range of the APG-79 - 72 vs 150 km

    Another weird benefit would have been that the F-18 has 1/5th the frontal radar cross section of an F-16, despite being larger.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,280 ✭✭✭brickster69


    From the Forbes " journalist " about the Oreshnik crash that he got from an unnamed Ukrainian journalist. Considering those things can travel 5000 km no doubt the Russians would of informed the US of a planned launch to prevent the risk of an accident occurring. Nothing from the US also and you could be sure they would be shouting it from the rooftops if it did happen.

    So looks like it was just another made up bit of fantasy for the gullible to cheer about.

    forbes.jpg

    EDIT - Further update

    Update, 2/7/25, 8:36 A.M EST: The Ukrainian National Security and Defense Council's Center for Countering Disinformation announced there was no Oreshnik launch on Thursday.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,560 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    I was under the impression the Australian F18s were scrap?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭thomil


    I generally like your posts but there are a few things I do need to call out here.

    To start out with, the aircraft available from Australia were F/A-18A (single seater) and B (double seater) models, the earliest versions of the Hornet, which are similar in capability to the F-16. There are, quite simply, no F/A-18E or F "Super Hornet" available in Australia, the 24 (+12 E/A-18G "Growler" Electronic Warfare variants) aircraft of that type that the RAAF has in service are all relatively new, having been delivered in the mid to late 2000s and early 2010s and are an integral part of the RAAF's order of battle.

    Second, the F/A-18 has a similar level of airfield requirements as the F-16. Air intakes are similarly close to the ground. There's a reason for the "FOD Walk" on a carrier flight deck before the start of flight operations. F-16s are able to conduct road ops just as well as other aircraft, this has been demonstrated in multiple exercises. Owing to its origin as a carrier aircraft, the Hornet does have a much stronger undercarriage in order to to handle the rather more robust carrier landings and catapult launches, that part is true. However, that same origin also brings with it a number of disadvantages, most of them stemming from the wing fold mechanism that's in place on all F/A-18s. This reduces the load capacity of any weapons stations outboard of the wing hinge, especially in the early model F/A-18A & B models that Australia operated. There's also the simple fact that the base model Hornet's fuel capacity is limited, requiring external tanks on nearly every mission which, together with the load restrictions on the outer wing hard points, reduces the available weapons hard points even further.

    Finally, and most importantly, the issue for Ukraine is the availability of pilots, more so than that of airframes. From what I read, back in December, Ukraine had about 20 F-16s available, but only a dozen or so pilots. If Ukraine had gone with the Australian F/A-18s, they'd have likely ended up with several dozen airframes but very few pilots to fly them. The flight training programs in Denmark, the UK, Romania and elsewhere throughout Europe are just as important as the aircraft themselves, and there's no real way to improve the throughput of those programs. Ukraine can't just afford to have an entire squadron of MiG-29s or SU-27s stood down just for the pilots to be retrained on western aircraft.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    Trumps envoy General Kellogg has been a busy bee

    and debunking the fake narratives of friends of Russia



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    I don't often advocate violence but for the love of poetic justice, when Putin's time comes (and it will come) I hope his downfall is literal.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,497 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    So, in the run up to any “truce” or whatever codology word is used, and the fact the Russia aren’t getting places, I wonder will Ukraine go all out and bomb the bejazuz out of certain regions to take back ground before the lines are formally drawn?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,018 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Unfortunately, we all know from grim experience that even if signs look good, Trump can be randomly swayed by anything. Just one meeting with Putin could easily spin him (and therefore entire Ukr policy, because he requires nothing but loyalty) in the other direction.

    Waiting to see what happens in Munich. And further what happens when he actually meets Putin (I wouldn't be surprised to see Putin make him toss all plans out the window and go for some radical "real estate deal" to deport Ukrainians or some nonsense)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,462 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    Yeh, he does get influenced by the last person in room with him before any coherent thoughts depart his aging brain and he goes tweeting/ xing/ truthing on the golden loo

    We will know we have a good deal when both sides are unhappy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,687 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Redeploying to protect refineries. Great news if true.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,462 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    They've only just relocated additional air defence to Crimea. If that report is true, then it'd possibly be one of the first real confirmations that "Russia's running out of [whatever] ..."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,462 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,462 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Someones playing the auld Israeli pager game with the Russians

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,462 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    A beautiful sight to see

    Now, if they could just get those Swedish Gripens the holy trinity would be complete.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,280 ✭✭✭brickster69


    With the capture of the mines outside the residential areas Toretsk has been officially confirmed as being under 100% control by the Russian defense ministry.

    toretsk.jpg

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭Virgil°


    Lol, with the FAR more interesting developments going on Kursk you choose to relay the piddling gains of Russian forces as reported by the Russian Defense Ministry.🤣

    Your bias/love for the genocidal regime is so utterly obvious. And don't even bother trying to both sides this or accuse the thread of being an optimistic Ukrainian lovefest. You're fooling nobody.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,462 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Thats a nice hit.

    Damage morale

    Damage tactical planning

    Damage control over their zerg units

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,088 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Oh riely?

    The Ukrainian Armed Forces continue to resist Russian troops in the city of Toretsk, Donetsk region, while urban fighting is taking place in the city, according to the Ukrainian publication DeepState. "Reports of the enemy's occupation of Toretsk are false - urban fighting is ongoing and the defense forces continue to repel Russian attacks."

    DeepState reported that despite a new wave of false claims from the Russian Ministry of Defense spreading in the Ukrainian information space, Ukrainian troops continue to conduct defensive operations in the city of Toretsk.

    Urban fighting is taking place in the Zabalka district, as well as on the northern and western outskirts. The city center is almost entirely under Russian control.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    The Russians openly state their aims are extermination

    Really? Can you post a link for that from somebody high up in the Russian military or Government?

    Or maybe you are confusing your threads, and meant to post in favour of Israel elsewhere?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,230 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    You might be correct in all you say, but using words like Putler and orcs doesn't give any weight to your thoughts. quite the opposite, IMO.

    Well-researched and well-reasoned opinions with links are more likely to do so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,622 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    From Sarmat, Zircon and Prometheus to Neddy, Eeyore and Jenny.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,088 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I didn't say there where any superhornets on offer, I said the US could possibly have been up for upgrading the radars to the same as are used in the superhornets.

    Here is a Ukrainian aviation experts take on your same airfield claim:

    we should ask our allies to provide the F-18, because this aircraft has a much stronger chassis and it would be able to operate from our airfields, without their reconstruction,”

    https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-f16-jets-f18-hornet-comparison-1805268

    Experts told the Financial Review that the twin-engine Hornets are better equipped for dealing with the rougher airfields Ukraine is operating from than comparable fourth-generation jets.

    Experts previously told Newsweek

    that jets such as the Swedish Gripen are more capable of dealing with rougher surfaces and dispersed airfields than the F-16.

    As to FOD - the F-18's engine intakes are far higher off the ground than the F-16's - one of which was actually lost due to FOD. Your claim of equivalence is false.

    The F-18 is more easily maintained than F-16 and has the US record for serviceability and combat availability. In the Gulf war, an F-18 took hits to both engines and made it 200km back to base and was repaired and airborne a couple of days later. You can swap out an engine in just 20 minutes.

    Then there's the absolute weirdness that Zelensky actually asked for F-18's from Finland and from the US.



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