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Trump - The positives - (see Mod note in OP)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭kazamo


    That applies to most leaders, but not Trump.

    He seems incapable of passing by a camera or microphone without unloading the latest thought he had in the last 20 minutes since the previous briefing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭dairyedge


    The positives? People are more likely to go on holidays in Ireland or go abroad to Europe. Had plans on going to USA this summer but after the last 48 forget about it. The education system must be 3rd world standard in America.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭kazamo


    Just an observation but perhaps having such a media intensive leader of the free world could break the obsession with social media ?.

    It has been very intensive since Jan 20th and I could do with a break.

    Maybe four years of this manic pace will leave a certain number of us weary of the constant barrage from our phones all day long 🤨



  • Administrators Posts: 55,061 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    there was still a marginal chance that Trump wouldn't.

    This is the same Trump that moved the US embassy to Jerusalem. Any Arab American who thought Trump was even a little teeny bit their friend was incredibly dim.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,709 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


     Any Arab American who thought Trump was even a little teeny bit their friend was incredibly dim.

    Any american who thinks he is their friend is a bit dim.

    His wife - immigrant

    ex-wife - immigrant.

    His new best friend - immigrant

    Kind of ironic really, considering his stance on immigrants.

    Positives:

    There's a bit in Independence Day where Jeff Goldblum explains the aliens tactics, "It's like chess, first you strategically position all your pieces and when the timing is right, you strike".

    DJT and Musk are being a bit premature with some of their activities, showing their hand too early. Result: People know what they are planning. Straight out of the Project 2025 runbook.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,895 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    They won’t really. It’ll fall under the International Olympic Committee.

    In theory. Trump says he will deny visas to trans athletes entering the country to compete, but I’m not sure how that would be enforced or how it would affect those from visa waiver countries (which are also the ones most likely to have trans athletes)

    However, it may well be a moot point. The current favourite to win the election for IOC Chair, Lord Coe has a policy position pretty much identical to Trump’s. He is currently head of World Athletics, which has banned such trans athletes. If the IOC does the same should be become head, there will be no need for the US administration to take any action.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭purifol0


    https://www.whitehouse.gov/uncategorized/2025/02/at-usaid-waste-and-abuse-runs-deep/

    "For decades, the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) has been unaccountable to taxpayers as it funnels massive sums of money to the ridiculous — and, in many cases, malicious — pet projects of entrenched bureaucrats, with next-to-no oversight."

    If you google USAID scandal, you'll get a whole bunch of left wing/anti trump outlets decrying this as a right wing conspiracy theory!

    Regardless if you agree with what the funding is going towards - maybe you think govt directly but secretly funding pro Dem outlets & journalists is a good thing, and of course a DEI panto for ourselves. The fact remains, these payments are about as far from democratic as you can get and were kept secret for a reason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,489 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    It's not positive at all. It's another example of authoritarian overreach.

    Trump, although he persistently fails to realise it, is not World Totalitiarian Autocrat. He's just the President of the United States and, although the powers of that office are considerable, they don't include telling a private body like a sports club or a sporting federation how to run their business. Arguable he can ban trans participatin in public school sporting events (although, as the schools are run by the states, he may need the co-operation of state governments to do that) and probably he can try to make federal funding for universities conditional on trans partipants being banned from university-run sporting events. But I don't see any basis on which he can claim to have the authority to tell, say, the Western New York Amateur Football Alliance or the National League of Professional Baseball Clubs that they must bar trans athletes from participating in the events that they organise. To be blunt, it's none of his fücking business. This is a decision they make for themselves.

    Nobody is in the least surprised that Trump thinks he can order anyone to do anything and they must comply. I blame his parents. But the fascist fanboys who cheer this king of thing on need to take a good, hard look at themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,859 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    An Israeli type playbook was used when anyone objected to men beating women in sport,

    Instead of just trying to defend unfair sporting competition people were called all sorts of names like transphobic or a Terf.

    Donald isn’t the sharpest tool in the box, but he’s been the first global leader to do this, and it’s 100% right. He’s not worried about over sensitive people’s feelings.

    He should still be in jail though. Monkeys and typewriters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,859 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    what he has done is remove the grey area that allowed this nonsense prevail at lower level sport which ultimately led to it being allowed at elite level.

    Now any sporting organisation in the US can point to ‘legistlation’ that there are two genders and you have to compete in the gender assigned at birth. The gov has given clear guidance.

    Sure your local garden bowling octogenarian committee can choose to ignore this and work away allowing mark pretend he’s Mandy but that’s not really an issue, the problem is elite level women getting punched in the face by men.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,335 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Exposing USAID foreign inference.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,335 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    You don't want to go to the USA because their education is 3rd world?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,489 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Both trans-accepting and trans-excluding sporting organisations and sporting events are available. "Elite level womem" — indeed, any women — are free to participate in whichever they prefer. They don't need the likes of Rapey Don to "protect" them by telling them what kind of events they are allowed to participate in.

    If you imagine for an instant that Trump's agenda here has anything to do with protecting cis women, I have a large volume of $TRUMP to sell you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,370 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    You're probably right - his agenda was only about embarrassing US Democrats who supported this nonsense. A



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭rock22


    And imagine if they had voted for Harris. And Harris had continues the Biden policy of never saying no to Netanyahu and fuelling the genocide.

    You could then state that "This is the same Harris who as vice president , done nothing to stop weaponising genocide in Palestine. Why do you think she would change now"

    There was no good choice for those voters who abhorred the genocide in Palestine and the US role in that genocide. And those voters included a lot more than just Arab Americans, it also included a lot of young voters. Had Harris given any hope to those opposed to US policy in Palestine? I don't think so, certainly not enough to win their votes.

    And I agree, Trumps policy is full on support for Netanyahu. And possibly Harris would have been less. But she wasn't promising to stop all weapon exports to Netanyahu.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,489 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Indeed. Trump doesn't care who he harms, or how he harms them, in his quest to repudiate everything the Dems have ever said or done. That's hardly a positive, though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,057 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    He sorted out the golf😀😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,370 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    It was an open goal. Grown men who then say they are women shouldn't be allowed to compete against women. It demonstrated a stupidity among those that say they are liberal. If the liberals were pushing this because the Republicans oppose it, it again demonstrates their stupidity.

    Trump was handed that one on a plate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,859 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    so there is a trans olympics and a non trans olympics? Is there a trans accepting and a non accepting women’s World Cup as well.


    maybe you have no issue with a biological man punching a biological woman in the face but most people do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,380 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Everyone talking the big talk about being anti-trans and bigging up Trump's executive order. Because the order affects federal funding at the school level, what this really means is the poor trans girl or boy who wants to play soccer or rugby or whatever with their friends at the local level can't now, as the school would lose their federal funding. All it'll do is make the trans person's life, which is already so bloody hard, even harder. It's performative cruelty.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,547 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    weird take - women should not have to compete against men in women's sports. The fact people feel the need to debate or have to resort to mental gymnastics to try an justify men competing against women is always humorous.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,508 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    This; people seem to confuse what an EO actually is and means. An EO is not a law; it's not legislation or will compel any sport to change their rules. It's simply stating "We wish something to be done like this" but it has ZERO power to influence any sport organization on their rules. The NFL could vote tomorrow that men are not allowed to have a testosterone level above a certain level or that half the team have to be females and Trump can do f-all about it. All he has done is to stop funding from the state for schools on teams yet Trump voters are making it out like he's banned something in actual competitive sport; he has not done anything about competitive sport. The same rules that where there under Biden are still there today. If a trans women was allowed to complete under Biden she's allowed to compete under Trump and his EO has had ZERO impact on that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,654 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    It's just flood-the-zone tactics, so the other mischief doesn't get as much coverage, like Eloon's Nazi-boy being booted once his eugenicist nonsense came out. Another one of Eloon's stormtroopers apparently had a business (at 19) to help RuZZians avoid scrutiny when applying for visas and such to the US.

    Like I posted earlier, trans people want to be left alone. The 'christian persecution' EO is so in violation of the 1st amendment hopefully it goes down in flames fast. Christian persecution my hole.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,489 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    They don't have to. As already pointed out, women are free to compete in trans-inclusive events/leagues or in trans-exclusive events/leagues as they themselves prefer. Why do you think women should not be allowed to make this choice, and be confined to competing only in events and leagues that Rapey Don approves of?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,489 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    If you think there's a demand for a trans-exclusive Olympics and a trans-exclusive Women's World Cup in whatever sport you are interested in, please feel free to organise one. But don't deny other people the freedom to organise the events that they think will attract competitors.

    And stop praising Trump for his efforts do do this. It just makes you look as if what you really see as positive in Trump is the authoritatianism, which is probably not the look you are reaching for.

    General rule: If you're reduced to praising Rapey Don as someone who advances you cause, your cause is in real trouble. Find another exemplar. And, if you can't, probably best to say nothing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,489 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Lookit, you're holding out a known rapist and serial abuser of women as a defender of the rights and interests of women. And the fact that you're not seeing the problem does make me think that the real agenda here may not actually have much to do with defending the rights of women.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,700 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    People who worship a convicted rapist as part of a cult don't care one whit about women. This is pathetically transparent and obvious.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,905 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Mod: NO more discussion about trans. I've already permanently banned posters and will have no bother doing it again!

    Edit: one more permanently banned from Politics 🙄

    Post edited by Seth Brundle on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,370 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    The sanctions on the ICC is probably seen as a positive in America as America doesn't even recognise the ICC anyway and Biden called the arrest warrant for Benjamin Netanhu "outrageous".



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭rock22


    Should those who support the ICC, which includes almost all countries who respect the rule of law, now sanction those who have sanctioned the ICC?



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