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Trump - The positives - (see Mod note in OP)

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  • #272
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123137107#Comment_123137107

    Particularly when the USA takes ownership of the strip (and the right to determine who lives there) but gets Saudi and other rich countries to pay to rebuild accommodation for the Palestinians.

    Sounds like genocide and ethnic cleansing together with a huge land grab to benefit Israel and USA and wipe out Palestinians - or at least their culture and their rights to their land.

    Typical Trump proposal.



  • #273
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123136028#Comment_123136028
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123136028#Comment_123136028

    Unfortunately I could not find reference that corellates to my comment in the link you posted. I mentioned Mexico and the US, the link you posted seems to be about Canada.

    Of course I'm aware that there have been previous attempts at this before, let's hope the latest agreement can work out for Mexico and the US, would you not agree that reduce illegal arms trade south to Mexico and reducing fentanyl getting into the US is a good thing to want to succeed at?



  • #274
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123136147#Comment_123136147

    Who could not agree that redeveloping Gaza is a thing. Fantastic if it works out well. But lessons must be learned from what happened before, an evil gang of thugs can never again be allowed to run that place. I say turn the place into somewhere we would all love to visit and invite people from the region to invest and live there, have good relations with neighbours instead of constant conflict and death.

    But wait… I just got a slap of reality there, it's never gonna happen, even if there was an attempt to re-develop, it will be hampered and sabotaged from forces of evil, both in and outside the region.



  • #275
    Wildlife Actor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭Wildlife Actor


    Here's a positive from the election: the intense schadenfreude I'm feeling for the collectively stupid population of Deerborn Michigan (highest US Arab proportion of a US city) who voted 69% Biden in 2020 and 36% Harris in 2024. In a swing state.

    I screamed at friends who suggested Biden Harris hadn't "done enough" for gaza to earn the votes of its supporters. It's the most moronic sentiment. Who did they think the most avid zionists were voting for? This is exactly the way populists divide and screw over the majority.

    And i guarantee you there will be people in Deerborn saying to themselves 'No I didn't vote for they guy who's going to bring nakba 2, it's just a bluff, he won't do what he says'. Psychology 101.

    So to the 33% of people of Deerborn Michigan who swung away from Harris I say: "Eat it all up you utter morons. Don't leave anything on your plate." At least they won't have to make a space in the house for any of their displaced comrades because Trump won't let them in.



  • #276
    Igotadose
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123139574#Comment_123139574

    "Be careful what you wish for." Arab-Americans in Dearborn having some serious buyers remorse. At least Rashida Tlaib had the nerve to call it what it is - "Fanatical bullsh1t"

    https://apnews.com/article/trump-arab-americans-michigan-gaza-plan-6014edae5196aa5bc2c1681452ec4cf8



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  • #277
    hotmail.com
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123139574#Comment_123139574

    I wonder how many American Democrats would support such a move. The disinterest in the Middle East from Americans in general is quite widespread. I'm not sure Trump himself is the problem, it's decades long American arrogance at play.

    The trans women in sport fiasco was the main story there last night.



  • #278
    Wildlife Actor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭Wildlife Actor


    Of course, there's no question that from a Palestinian perspective the US as shown indifference and hasn't done enough . That's a given. But there's indifference and there's....well have a look at your news feed. The inability of the human mind to understand "the lesser of two evils" when voting is pretty astonishing.



  • #279
    hotmail.com
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123139806#Comment_123139806

    At the moment it's a suggestion, used to a tactic probably used to ensure that Hamas behaves itself in the next 4 years.



  • #280
    Igotadose
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123139853#Comment_123139853

    Andddd…. Trump 2.0 explanations of him playing 4d chess begin again. It's just performative cruelty, what did last, 2 days?



  • #281
    dulpit
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123139574#Comment_123139574

    The democrats and Joe Biden acted horribly around the Gaza issue. I can understand why it would be hard to support them. But in the back-asswards system that the US has when it's a binary choice, the only logical choice was still the Democrats. Why people found this hard to understand is beyond me.



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  • #282
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123139939#Comment_123139939

    There is a certain cohort on the left who cared far more about their own conscience being clear than the future of the people they professed to support.

    Performative, selfish garbage.



  • #283
    ancapailldorcha
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123139939#Comment_123139939

    I fell out with an Arab friend over this. He was a the same both sides drivel you see rampant on sites like this. I sincerely doubt he feels the same way now. I doubt that there were enough Arab-American votes to flip the presidency blue but they must bear some responsibility for this.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #284
    dulpit
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    The US system is terrible with a two-party system. And it should be changed. But until it changes, you need to play the system as it currently exists.



  • #285
    ancapailldorcha
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123140132#Comment_123140132

    It won't be changed. It disproportionately benefits Republicans while it means that the Democrats usually only have to be slightly less terrible than the GOP to win.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #286
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    If Trump's 'Riviera of the Middle East' does come about, it will be Zionists and even further right wing Zionists that will invest, and it will quickly become part of Israel. Any other investors will be driven out by the Zionists.

    All Palestinians will be ejected from Israel and the left bank, to form a 100% Jewish homeland. And who is there to stop this from happening?



  • #287
    Igotadose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,654 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123140057#Comment_123140057

    Not the whole outcome, but the outcome in Michigan might've been a lot closer. Both voters staying home or voting Trump as they did in Dearborn. I think a lot of non-voting was due to the influence of the Gaza story.



  • #288
    martingriff
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123131197#Comment_123131197

    Except there was 14,000 there under a deal with Biden so has he weakened the border by saying only 10,000



  • #289
    rock22
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123140132#Comment_123140132

    But who knows what Trump will actually do, as against what he say's. The Arab-Americans already knew Biden was fuelling genocide in Gaze. Slim and all as the probabilities might be, there was still a marginal chance that Trump wouldn't. And that chance was worth voting for against the certainty that Biden's actions were genocidal. I imagine most Arab American voted for neither Trump or Biden.



  • #290
    Lewis_Benson
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123136147#Comment_123136147

    So ireland should have just been handed to the British then yeah?

    Irish is Irish, we could have lived anywhere.

    Moron.



  • #291
    dulpit
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123140830#Comment_123140830

    Ah it was clear as day that Trump wouldn't do less than Biden.



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  • #292
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123140658#Comment_123140658

    Nope, he did not say that, Sheinbaum did. Nobody said they were planning to reduce the numbers, in fact recent estimates showed approx 32k already there but Sheinbaum will not be clear on the exact figures. And if an other 10k are need it goes to show how bad the problem is, and there probably still will not be enough.

    As this is a thread about positives, I see that as a positive action, more border guards to have more control over deadly drugs being trafficked and more measures to control arms that go south that looneys use to kill people and if these actions prevent some deaths, that is a great thing in my book.

    It is surely better than doing nothing, putting the blinkers on and always trying to find the negative in things.



  • #293
    Rjd2
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123140830#Comment_123140830

    Firstly we must be careful their is an attempt by some of the more hardcore Biden supporters to absolve him of genocide, that's drivel and when we are all gone his legacy will be how he presided over a genocide.

    Domestically he did well, but people are going to remember Palestine and how he paved the way for Trump's return.

    Will Trump be any better than Biden regarding Palestine? Of course not and anyone who thought otherwise was an idiot.

    I do loath the sneering we are seeing from the Biden disciples " you voted for this~!" towards Arab American's they should not have voted for Trump, but they felt powerless as the Democrats were complicit in this genocide.



  • #294
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,897 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Mod: Stay on topic folks: Trump - The positives

    Can people help us understand why people elected him and what tangible benefits he has brought to people's lives?

    @Rjd2 less of the hyperbole!



  • #295
    hotmail.com
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123142554#Comment_123142554

    These disciples don't really care about the Middle East.

    Trump's speed in changing the news agenda means that by tomorrow, the Gaza story will be old news.



  • #296
    lawrencesummers
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    Looked at in isolation it’s completely positive that he has moved to ban people born male from participating in female sport. It is long overdue and should never have taken so long.

    With LA hosting the 2028 games I wonder how the individual sporting federations will deal with the ban.



  • #297
    Rjd2
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123142605#Comment_123142605

    Apologies dude.



  • #298
    Wildlife Actor
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    They literally did vote for this. How you can you not understand the simple fact that voting black because grey isnt white enough for you is masochistic and counterproductive? And don't peddle the "well, with trump there was a chance of a better outcome because he's so unpredictable" nonsense. There was nothing unpredictable about this. Jared Kushner proposed it a year ago!



  • #299
    Rjd2
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123142720#Comment_123142720

    We are political nerds who would be well aware of what Jared said , but I can understand how normal hard working Arab Americans who just felt numb at what was happening in Palestine thinking " Trump can't be worse" , yeah they should have known better but desperate people do stupid things unfortunately.

    Regarding good things Trump has done, slim pickings obviously but pardoning Ross was good and pulling security for the likes of Bolton,Brennan and Pompeo is correct.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/23/trump-pulls-security-protections-for-mike-pompeo-john-bolton



  • #300
    blackbox
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    Is Donnie getting any time to play golf?

    It might be the most positive thing he could do.



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  • #301
    hotmail.com
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123142676#Comment_123142676

    There doesn't appear to be any criticism of this move. I'm not sure anyone even agreed with it to start with but possibly people got carried away with being inclusive they didn't use their brains. And as usual, the burden fell on women.



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