2025 Irish EV Sales

Remarkable you have to say. 1188 bz4x units sold in Norway in January. Tesla down to No. 6 with close to 700 units between model 3 and model Y. Since nearly an all EV market presumably Toyota sold few if any ICE units.

I think the new Toyota Urban cruiser ev is going to be the real indicator for Toyota on how they'll transfer their existing custom base to EV. It's basically a Toyota Yaris Cross so if they can't move some of that existing base over they have a problem.

It's going to be about price though with so much competition in the new small EV market. If they overprice it they won't shift people to it. If they get too greedy existing Cross owners will stay with the Yaris Cross Hybrid and they won't be able to compete with the other manufacturers to rob new customers.

The name is the thing that gets me, who thought BZ4X was a good name for a car needs their heads examined

Not Toyota's first strange choice of name. I have an MR2. It doesn't take from the car, though.

I have to admit, the likes of the new Tiguan with decent electric range and DC charging are pretty compelling. Cars like that should be able to cover 99% of driving on electric only

They would have been great back in 2019 😏

Handy if you've no driveway, or on holiday and want some electric

Even public charging rates are still generally cheaper than petrol

As I said though, it would have been a great idea in 2019, but technology has moved on

Still, if it gets people actually driving electric then I'm fine with it

if memory serves it stands for Midship Runabout 2 seater but Mid engine RWD 2 seater also works, far better name than BZ4X that’s for sure.

That's still the equivalent of €1.71 and €1.50 per liter of petrol. And that's being conservative! Completely pointless to be filling on those prices really

your historical fuel mix graph goes back 18 years, so it covers about 1.7m of the 2.5m national fleet of cars, but what’s interesting is that the thin vein of green (EV sales) shows how low a % of the national fleet is now electric, and obviously we’ve hundreds of thousands of cars that are pre 2007 that aren’t in this graph.

‘The move to electric’ is only successful if we’re converting the national fleet to electric - and clearly the tipping point is still a long way off.

As an aside, the UK now say that the 2035 target for no combustion engine of any kind to be sold in any vehicle will include ALL manufacturers of all sizes, ie including the likes of Ferrari or caterham. No one will be excluded.

yes and no.

We’re all car fans of some sort, on a motoring forum - which makes us somewhat blinkered to the fact that the overwhelming majority of new car buyers are just looking to buy “an car”, to quote Jeremy Clarkson.

I’ve joked here many times - who are these thousands of Irish buyers who’ve suddenly decided they need a Yaris cross? the answer is simple - they walked into the Toyota dealer to be sold a car, like they’ve always done, and that’s what’s there.

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It’s the dream really, and not have to agonise around every element of every spec and every possible car 😂

Nothing wrong with your logic but often the heart overules the head when buying cars. A lot more drivers “want” a Tuscon over an Ioniq. They’re obviously happy to pay more to drive a car they want. On a PCP or whatever it might not even be that much extra when you factor in resale values.

I'd have an ioniq 5 all day long over a tucson, I really like the ioniq, but just to play devil's advocate to your numbers.....

Its design is polarising i imagine. Doesnt help with demand. I like it, it's very different which really appeals to me but many won't.

The ioniq for sub 40k is the 58kwh model, it will do most people absolutely fine but it has quite a low range, 385km claimed. I also have a 58kwh car but it's smaller than the ioniq and it has 425km claimed range, realistically it's about 320 to 350 kms most charges and has been sub 300 in bad conditions, so I'd guess the ioniq 58 is going to be sub 300kms a lot of the time in Ireland and down around 250 at times difficult for consumption. This will turn a lot of people off, rightly or wrongly.

Price is good though for a big, practical, and good looking car to my eyes.

The 77 ioniq is up around 50k and is significantly more expensive than the tuscon, albeit offset a good bit by the lower cost of credit if you go through hyundai finance.

So it's not a black and white decision, I couldn't really argue with people going for tuscon. I have no idea how it is the best selling car in Ireland but it is.

Yeah ill agree with you there on the interior. There might be ways to dress is up by going high spec and ticking options but that's going to be €€€€€€ and it no longer is a cheap car. Maybe there isn't even a way, I've never seriously looked at them just admire them on the road.

I am very drawn to design both interior and exterior, kia ev6 from the same parent group is much better inside. But they start at higher price.

Arguably better outside too but they're so different it's just taste, both good exterior designs.

sales man could easily say if you go with tucson you will spend more over the term but will have equity in the car at the end. It will depreciate less enabling you to trade in for another without having to come up with a deposit again.

The ioniq may be less predictable…?