Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Read OP for mod warnings before posting*

I don't really care about Thatcher.

You care enough to give her a glowing history rewrite.

The situation in Moyvalley is contributing to the housing crisis.

In a sensible world where a country ha a shortage of housing for the people who already live their they would not be taking in any asylum seekers and certainly they wouldn't be giving them preference over natives for any housing.

Who has been made homeless?

No undocumented illegal immigrant regardless if they claim asylum or not should be housed. We need to be more like Poland. There's a country that's willing to protect its culture and citizens. Europe will eventually wake up and take this stance. The lefties will destroy our culture, parties like PPP calling to take in more refugees from Muslim and African nations. They want to erode our European heritage and for what. A bunch of freeloaders

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In the post I was replying to was referring to social housing lists which if you read you would understand.

There is a world of difference between local housing lists accommodating people and greedy vultures and carpet baggers like the one you describe in Moy Valley .

This present government and past minister for housing sees nothing wrong with evictions of people for various reasons . .the people that voted this shower in are to blame for what happens next.

Refugee type immigration needs a 20 year but possibly a 30 year pause because visa migration will continue and I'm struggling to see our housing sorted in 20 years now. We also need measures which bans over seas investors buying our properties, being allowed evict native Irish and buying houses been given priority to the natives.

You're wrong I voted Aontu who want to patrol our borders, which is exactly what we should be doing

The problem is, in their strive to hoover up voters, FFG have taken on board policies that SF and PBP would propose and in doing so, swung too much to the left, although there is a slight correction at play now that the Greens are out of the picture.

How is that a problem for FF and FG?

Seems like vacuuming up the votes is exactly what they want.

They may well allude to left policies. Often even including them in their pre election manifesto but do they make it into the programme for Government.

I don't think its left wing policy to prop up social housing by moving large amounts of money to private landlords but that has been the defacto policy of both government parties. This si their attempt to solve the housing crisis.

And well if the turkeys want to vote for christmas, then at christmas they shall be eaten.

Totally sustainable. But as long as greedy landlords get record profits who cares sure!

You only gave preference votes to Aontu candidates and no one else?

Hopefully you were in one of two constituencies where that would not have been a wasted vote.

"People are only waking up now because the problems are starting to show and unless they plug the dam this is the tip of the iceberg."

Lot of metaphors there without any coherent meaning alright .

Really couldn't make that sxxx up ! Or could you ?

( Not aimed at anyone in particular just a general comment )

I have my doubts about where some of this rhetoric and incessant catastrophising and dubious links are coming from .

Think the main issue is to get our government to tackle a housing crisis without just handing it over to the private sector to deal with as they have done unsuccessfully for the last 20 odd years.

This approach has resulted not only in the endless under production of new housing stock but the cycle of ever increasing profits to be made from rising prices and rents for vulture funds et al..

Even Davy Stockbrokers are calling the government out on it today . ( Probably because it has now hit the level where many working for these corporations now cannot afford to buy a house in Dublin! )

93000 homes needed per year to catch up and prevent pent-up demand .Meanwhile this government have not even managed to produce the lower levels of 33,000 ,their target , n the last year . 30,300 and not even 'completed ' .

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://businessplus.ie/news/93k-homes-davy/%23:~:text%3DDavy%2520have%2520forecast%2520that%252093%252C000,up%2520demand%2522%2520for%2520230%252C000%2520homes.&ved=2ahUKEwiH-Ivo6ayLAxU0TkEAHQcsJ10QFnoECBQQBQ&usg=AOvVaw3lYyyPq5g4a6MsaVotXUNw

Are people here still blaming Immigration for this consistent underperformance by government in office ? That sounds to me like supporters of present government trying to defer blame / scapegoat for this long continuing issue .

And people need to accept that it is racist to foist blame on a relatively small group of vulnerable people just because they are not Irish.

That is the definition of racism and no matter how people try to dress it up as" common sense " or " I am not racist but.." or this just has to with pressure on housing, services etc everybody reading this thread can see exactly what is in fact being said.

Somebody is having a good laugh at our expense here .

The numbers of immigrants have grown from a small base but still would not be causing problems if we had a functioning government that could supply housing and services that are necessary for the country's population as it is .

These issues have been ongoing in perpetuity here and will continue unless the immature voting for individuals and parish pump politicians gives way to people voting for parties with progressive policies that are continued from government to government .

Obviously more people in our country think that is FF/FG government again that brings that sort of certainty . Undeniable from election results with no coalition of left available .

Unfortunately that means this situation that we are discussing here will continue to deteriorate not because of immigrant numbers but mismanagement at many points in government housing policy.

And sure while we are all at each other's throats here arguing about whose fault it is ,those politicians are happy with the status quo / laughing all the way to the bank.

Classic case of divide and conquer and would suspect some government people shilling away here for the last 18 months ensuring this conversation and confusion continues .

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Simply depressing to read that.

Whit the funding of $70,000 from the US for production of a ‘DEI musical’ in Ireland being cut I guess we'll have to add that to the list of things we have to cover now.