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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭_BAA_RAM_EWE


    your rose is outside. and Eth

    and BTC. surprising they aren't going to claim BTC...I'd say they will.

    link is the only one in all.

    most of the rest barring ripple is meme fluff (sol is the capital) that will never do anything long-term and people should look at getting rid of.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭byrne249


    Am I seeing this correctly? 30% CGT on BTC is far more punitive than their current CGT. Looks like Trump is actually trying to kill BTC and everything else. Appears to make it less appealing than simply investing in the stock market.

    And frankly, unless you have millions of a potential tax bill nobody is opening foreign bank accounts. If you did have millions in it I would reckon you need your head examined.

    Post edited by byrne249 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭erlichbachman


    Trump is attempting to incentivise by giving tax breaks, I had heard talk of abolishing income tax too though not sure how true that is but it looks like the tax system is in for a shakeup over there. On the other hand Gensler and warren threatened wells notices on any bank or cex if they had anything to do with crypto, and they cost millions to investors and founders of crypto who had to defend themselves against false accusations.

    It’s a good effort byrne, but there are people on here who have seen exactly what the previous administration did to the industry over the last few years, and even if Trump whips his lad out and urinates all over a bitcoin miner it still wont do a fraction of the damage the last crowd achieved.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭_BAA_RAM_EWE


    Trump bought through his world liberty company,

    "According to on-chain data from Etherscan on December 12, WLFI acquired over 2,631 ETH at a price of $3,801 per ETH, totalling around 10 million USDC. WLFI also purchased 41,335 LINK tokens with 1 million USDC, at an average price of $24.2 per LINK. The price of Chainlink surged by over 20% in just one day after the purchase, reaching $26.72."

    Eth is a strange one here, billionaires own it. But it's gonna be taxed. And it's gonna be the workhorse of cryptos unless the in fighting is worse than it seems.

    But id be waiting for something to come from someone other than your man Eric here.

    Plus, the world is bigger than the US. But this is awful manipulation.

    Look at that crap with columbia all weekend. It's like a game but unfortunately it's real life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭byrne249


    I'm not sure what attempt I'm trying to make. I see an article claiming they will potentially apply a 30% CGT on the likes of Bitcoin, whereas wiki tells me the current general CGT starts at 10% scaling to 20%. That doesn't read like an incentive to me. Quite the opposite actually. Maybe he considers Bitcoin a US made crypto but I'm not sure what definition he's using to claim such.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭erlichbachman


    Apologies, I thought your post was just a political criticism of Trump, so Trump is going to increase CGT while lowering tax in other areas, and BTC just happens to fall under the proposed increase? I don’t see how this is any different than cgt on stocks, is btc specifically mentioned and singled out apart from typical stock investments?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭erlichbachman


    Unfortunately toshi got listed instead of Pepe, that could have been epic



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,047 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    If you can swing it, move to Australia, it's not a socialist state and doesn't have the financial begrudgery that poster wallows in. No such nonsense as deeming for ETF's, they are treated the same as individual equities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭byrne249


    I'm fairly Trump Agnostic, I'll judge things as I see them.

    The difference is the highest cgt band today is 20%. They plan to add a new 30% band or increase the existing band on subject crypto only, to make up for the loss of revenue from 'US made crypto' being 0% presumably.

    It's a pedantic point really, but it strikes me as a strange thing to do



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 496 ✭✭HGVRHKYY


    Wouldn't crypto/stocks be taxed as income in Aus? I remember considering it before and their taxation laws are definitely much easier to deal with but the rates were high afair



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,497 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Dividends paid on shares are taxed as income in Australia, at marginal rates. The top marginal rate is 45%. Depending on complicated rules which we needn't bother with here, the recipient of the dividend may get a partial credit for tax paid by the company before it distributed the dividend. Crypto doesn't pay any dividends but, if it did, the same would apply. The top marginal rate is 45%.

    Gains earned on the disposal of shares or crypto are taxed on the same basis as gains earned on the disposal of any other asset — no special rules apply. There isn't a separate capital gains tax — gains are just added to the rest of your income and are subject to income tax, which means they are taxed at your marginal rate of income tax.

    However if you've held the asset for longer than 12 months, then you get a discount — only 50% of the gain is added to your income. This effectively means that you are taxed on the gain at 50% of your marginal rate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭erlichbachman


    140k BTC by the end of Feb, and we’re only getting started.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭_BAA_RAM_EWE




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭erlichbachman


    Watched a video on YouTube, well 5 mins of a 20 min video to be precise, then checked the RSI chart and I concluded that yes, we are in for 140k BTC by end of feb



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Be wary of the the algorithm, it tells you what you want to hear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    some nice buying opportunities for ai coins. Some down 80%.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭erlichbachman


    If it thinks I want to hear 140k then it doesn’t know me very well



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭erlichbachman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Grand so, things can certainly change I suppose, it wasn't anticipated that the orange lad would cause a market manipulated crash after reportedly making 800 million from a rug pull but here we are. I think it's more difficult now to predict what's going to happen in this cycle than before.

    Would have thought there's only about 6 or 8ish weeks left in this run but things could go sideways for a while after that mad weekend so who knows at this point. Investors do need to watch out for more manipulation which I think is guaranteed to happen again. The presidents son was shilling ETH last night FFS.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,594 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    You also have to assume that whether the orange adonis is doing something that benefits him or the crypto industry.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭Potatoeman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭erlichbachman



    Wouldn’t it be fun if federal payments were made transparent and put on blockchain 🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭erlichbachman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,594 ✭✭✭silliussoddius




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭byrne249


    Those YouTubers are all frauds

    140k sometime in February was my original guesstimate. But this level of choppiness at new all time highs has never been followed by a new leg up, fast price discovery followed by even quicker retraces is a bull, New addresses, On chain + ETF volume are miles off on chain volume alone 4 years ago, I simply don't see the demand, there's no new retail interest for the first time in it's lifetime, and it's slowly retracing to the 21 weekly, if and when that breaks it's usually every man for himself. But this could also be maturity, reasonably stable price followed by small incremental gains going forward is most likely or stagnation and loss of interest by the hodl crew, which equates to death, but the cultish belief is strong as yet. Two bull runs ending in a whimper won't be a good look and it will be harder to sell the super cycle narrative. I'm simply playing devil's advocate here btw, while there is certainly a lot of positivity out there, I wouldn't hang my hat on imaginary Bitcoin sovereign wealth funds unless I have proof it is happening



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭_BAA_RAM_EWE


    Changed Federal Employees statusus so that they could be easily fired and went and fired the woman investigating Neuralink aswell. Kicked out the media companies that they didn't like from the white house. Theirs riots and protests happening in the US but nobodys reporting it. Vids are on tiktok. It annoys me somewhat living in this timeline with these people.

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/technology/tech-news/phyllis-fong-who-was-investigating-elon-musks-brain-implant-startup-neuralink-forcefully-removed-from-office-after-refusing-termination-order/articleshow/117800543.cms

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/pentagon-removes-major-media-outlets-nbc-news-dedicated-workstations-p-rcna190276



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭erlichbachman


    A clean out is needed, the corruption in the last lot is staggering, it’s common in the US to be forcibly removed from a workplace if fired and refuse to leave, it’s considered trespassing the moment they are fired.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,594 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    So someone who is unelected and has government contracts who complies by current regulations, who also has floated the idea of his company potentially handling 40% of all financial transactions and the company also requires mass data for his AI project is the person to do it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭erlichbachman


    Yep, has x running efficiently on 20% of the workforce of twitter, and will achieve the same outcome at the US government, the waste being reported is staggering, ya have to hand it to him, top man.

    Anyways, an effective solution for financial transparency and efficiency is blockchain, interesting times ahead.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,594 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    It’s ok. There will lots of room in the memory hole for mental gymnastics.
    Can’t wait for him to land on Mars and the moon in 2024, but as long as X is seen a successful then that’s the main thing.



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