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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,281 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Also, Canadian citizens are listening to the hateful rhetoric on social media from the millions of Trump disciples south of the border about Canada being an 'enemy' and how they need to be taught a lesson etc. This is surely hugely damaging to relations between the two countries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,537 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    The Canadians booed the US National Anthem at a few games over the weekend.

    You know how sh*tty you have to be, to get Canadians, to boo a National Anthem? Trump sh*tty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    exactly.

    Matt will take their underage girls tho.

    IMG_1256.jpeg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    You know Deepthroat was an undisclosed source? Shall I go through the long list of unnamed sources that have broken huge scandals? A publication risks their credibility if they don't validate their sources etc. I'm sure you'll spin this in some other way as further confirmation comes out in relation to this as Trump fans historically do...

    Worth remembering that fans lapped up dogs being eaten when that had absolutely no credibility so somewhat hilarious to see the passion for facts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,055 ✭✭✭blackbox


    I'm trying to think of things I can stop buying from the USA, but I'm struggling.

    The only thing I can think of is my Windows OS that came with my pre-owned computer.

    I don't think the petrol for my car comes from there.

    What am I missing?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,635 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Seems like the story is pretty solid:

    https://archive.is/O3COo

    25 y/o grad of Rutgers, an entirely unimpressive university - I know, I lived in NJ. Not like this is someone out of MIT or Stanford, no doubt some lackey that's good at following directions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭donegal_man


    I received an email from a colleague who is incredibly pro Trump claiming he has "…brought Canada and Mexico to heel, fully expect Denmark to follow suit and Greenland to be the fifty first State by Easter."

    Personally I believe a lot of this posturing is little more than a smokescreen for Musk's illegal takeover of the Treasury.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,702 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Wtf is wrong with these people. Everything they do and say is so childishly aggressive.

    *not you TinyMuffin. Gaetz etc. 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,537 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    A big thing too is that because of EU regulations, a lot of the US's products either aren't available here or are manufactured in the EU rather than the US. So much of what we'd consider American foods available here are manufactured here, as we use natural sugars rather than high-fructose corn syrup like America. Plus Trump keeps b*tching that the EU doesn't take enough American cars, even though a lot of American cars (including the godawful Cybertruck) don't meet EU regulations and so can't be sold here (or more likely, just aren't wanted/popular here compared to European and Japanese brands).

    There are likely a lot of products that come here from America, especially tech products, and there is likely a big imbalance. But I think a hell of a lot of that stuff, we wouldn't miss if it was gone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,702 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Trumps greatest achievement. He managed to piss off the Canadians.

    The Canadians.

    That's really hard to do.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 372 ✭✭pjdarcy


    Coca Cola would be a good start. (not to derail the thread but they also have a factory in Atarot, an illegal Israeli settlement if that helps make up your mind)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,537 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    That's one of the products I was thinking that are manufactured in the EU (or outside the US), even though it's a US-based company. Even just comparing the colours of our orange Fanta and the US's orange Fanta, they're completely different. Our Fanta is coloured the same as orange juice, because it's made with orange juice. Their Fanta is coloured like the skin of an orange I guess because oranges are orange…



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,606 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The Fairness Doctrine repeal was the beginning of letting them off the regulatory leash and then we saw the rise of big tech which is somehow even less accountable. Both groups of entities push the culture war and distort the truth for their own benefit and have hidden behind the principle of free speech every step of the way.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,838 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Trump got nothing except headlines. Some deal for the USA.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭combat14


    the reality is the US is 36.22 trillion in debt and rapidly growing they have to do something fast



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,326 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    You (and the bosses) must be delighted with what the Donald has delivered since he took office anyway.

    He hasn't cut off Ukraine just yet, he is looking somewhat wobbly there + might not provide as good RoI as expected, but otherwise the report card from Tsar Putin and Chairman Xi would be good to excellent so far!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,535 ✭✭✭techdiver


    Whilst I agree that the current system is disfunctional, he's not going to make things better for the average person though. The game of all around him is to consolidate wealth and power even more to the few at the top. Economic turmoil actually works out for the wealthy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,281 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    This would be typical of the 'base'. Their hero can do no wrong and every move is an absolute master stroke : it's quite cult like.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,606 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Voting for a man with several bankruptcies, some on recession-proof properties will change this?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    Agree, strange scary stuff happening. Musk hacking the US government, doing the same things he did when he bought Twitter, firing senior execs, slashing budgets, closing departments. Now he has a free run at the US establishment. What is going on? Tariffs look like a side show.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,682 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    The only conversations going are either that Trump is wonderful or Trump is stupid, and how his manic disrupting is going to affect individual countries. There is too much confusion and indignation going to start conversations about anything else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Ya, making it more difficult to export your products and destroying global trust in the US makes them irrelevant in the global order more than anything.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,606 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It's almost impressive. The world's largest reservoir of soft power, accumulated over 80 years and it's being spaffed away for nothing.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭ronjo


    That is 100% what he was looking for…… His base laps with up without him doing absolutely anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭littlefeet


    It will be resarecected and called US aid promoting US values or something similar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,382 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Kiss the ring?

    Yesterday you were trying to spin nonsense about Canada 'bending the knee'… you could provide no actual details to back that up and it was obvious Trump had called off the tariffs due to market jitters and Canada re-promising to do what they'd already promised to do.

    So you've moved off from one nonsense phrase "bending the knee" to another "kiss the ring".

    All the while backed up by absolutely nothing.

    Just like Trump's bluster.

    Desperate phrases to conceal an absolute lack of substance or tangible progress made by Trump to justify damaging US standing.

    Meanwhile, it is obvious to those paying attention that "Trump blinked":

    Despite a White House victory lap, there’s a more convincing case that it was really Trump who backed away from a fight that could have caused severe economic pain… A more objective view of the bizarre showdown with America’s neighbors suggests a blunter truth: Trump blinked…
    And by backing down at the 11th hour, the president also sent a clear message to Beijing — which has been slapped with a new 10% tariff on exports to the US — that he might jump at a potential deal if it looks like a breakthrough, even if it lacks depth.

    Oh and that phrasing is described by CNN as:

    “Canada is bending the knee, just like Mexico,” White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told CNN. This was a stunning insult coming from a press aide with no diplomatic responsibility. It also suggested deep contempt for Canada, especially in the White House of a president who demands it become the 51st state…

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/04/politics/trump-blinks-trade-war-analysis/index.html

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭littlefeet


    He's blinked over the Mexican and Canadian tariffs.

    How are people so fooled by him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭strathspey


    You need to compare debt as a percentage of GDP, then you'll find America isn't that indebted compared to other countries. Argentina for example is more indebted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭crusd


    The trans issue was only talked about in the election campaign by the MAGA cult as their wedge issue. The only way the dems mentioned it was in the context of respecting everyone



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    The general assessment is that his threat of tariffs against Mexico and Canada haven't had any real tangible things achieved. So if it follows the same approach with Xi then it just makes Trump seem all the more silly. Realistically it's just gonna mean all these states are simply gonna grow their trade relationships with the likes of the EU cause trust in the US is greatly diminished.



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