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Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Read OP for mod warnings before posting*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,656 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Breaking my heart to see what the country is turning into.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,084 ✭✭✭prunudo


    What's worse is that people are either blind to it or afraid to speak out about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 727 ✭✭✭Phat Cat


    Or activity encourage it:

    "The protest was peaceful, although it became somewhat heated when one man appeared with a fold-up chair and a sign saying: “refugees welcome here”. This drew the attention of some of the protesters who gathered in front of him. “I’ve every right to be here, same as you,” the man said.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,202 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    It won't stop, this Goverment will be in power for the next 5 years and it will be more of the same.

    But one would imagine at some stage anger will reach boiling point, I mean there are a couple of hundred a week arriving here and unless deportations ramp up (which probably won't happen) the country is finished.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭Lotus Flower


    And they don’t care either, they’re posting photos on LinkedIn smiling and laughing oblivious to the destruction they’re causing



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,084 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Keeping an eye on the Seanad elections, seems some of the decent speakers and those that aren't afraid to hold the government to account have been returned. McDowell, Mullins and Keoghan to name 3.

    Although, while it's great Hazel Chu was eliminated, Aubrey McCarthy from the Tiglin organisation got in. So given they were one of the ngo's handing out tents along the canal last year, it's mixed blessings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 323 ✭✭Gamergurll


    So we are now at the point of evicting Irish people to house Ipas (was this not a thing with nursing homes already?). Would it not be better for government to just take the whole population of Ireland and fnck us off to some island somewhere, we are clearly in the way, there will be plenty of room then, although short of a few mugs to pay for the racket 🤷



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    Who or what would pay for it all if that happened when Trump sorts out our tax haven for corporates.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


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    Seeing is believing but at least they're discussing European Values which is the pillar of immigration and integration.

    Large scale immigration can only be a good thing if large scale deportation for failed immigrants isn't possible. Keep the good say goodbye to the bad. And we shouldn't have to compensate the failures to leave either. That's an insult to those of us who uphold European values.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭Hungry Burger


    Is this suppose to make them come back with a “All welcome” attitude? Probably done with that slant knowing Channel 4

    That could backfire say when they see the reality of those countries they will probably come back as the biggest Reform supporters in the country.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭Hungry Burger




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Why do they need houses when there's hundreds of thousands of Irish who need housing. The more that come in the more that will "need" housing. We need to declare an emergency and suspend all refugee approvals for 20 year's. We're way past capacity. We need to start punching up.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    I fully support the welcome the world policy… People that have never contributed in… Irish taxpayers for years OUT!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Are you denigrating thatcher? Ill tell you what… Leaders that werent weak, like her, likely would never have us in that state, that we are now… They would have put their fellow countrymen first, not arrivals from thousands of miles away and put them up in hotels , that irish cant afford to stay in, welfare, meals provided, medical cards etc…



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,621 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Thatcher only put corporate interests first and we're still living with her catastrophic mistakes today.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    So she put her own interest first, maybe… Unlike Harris and mickey mouse? They are not fit to hold office…



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,621 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    No maybe. Definitely. If people don't like FF and FG, they can vote them out. Clearly, you're in the minority there.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,285 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    So it looks like we can only build 30,000 houses per year and by 2026, considering they are mostly single males, we need to have not for off 50,000 out of the 60,000 for Asylum Seekers.

    While there are 500,000 adults living at home and our most skilled head off to Australia and Canada.

    Yet there are people who will tell you that immigration doesn't have an affect on the housing crisis.

    This needs to be called out as an emergency and something needs to be done quickly before the country is destroyed.

    The numbers are only going to get bigger as the likes of Germany are looking to get more strict.

    The only thing that will reduce the numbers is a massive recession, if the Multinationals leave, the last recession will look like the good days compared to what will happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭engineerws


    She believed that the excessive costs of increasingly inefficient collieries had to end in order to grow the economy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984%E2%80%931985_United_Kingdom_miners%27_strike

    She reduced government subsidies to mines (corporations). There's a lot to argue there whether she was right or wrong but that was not putting corporate interest first. It was also not putting miners interests first but one could easily argue it was putting the UKs interestes first.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,621 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    She privatised vital state infrastructure, resources and housing which contributed significantly to today's cost of living crisis, not to mention scummy water companies dumping effluent in rivers and lakes. She was a hack corporatist, nothing more.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth Randomer


    5 shot at school in Sweden. The consequences will be interesting in the context of Swedens immigration stance. Relevant for us as well.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c79d52gpd02o



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,536 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    In the perfect world yes. But when the alternatives are worse what do you expect to happen?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,621 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I expect the other parties to improve if they want to get in. Ireland is rare in that it offers voters real and meaningful choice on election day.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭Lotus Flower


    Generations from now will still be living with the catastrophic handling of mass immigration



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,285 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Has there been anything to confirm this is immigration related?

    I can't see anything confirming, but I am probably wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    She was also buddies with Jimmy Savile.

    Privatisation was on the cards regardless of who was in number 10, I think we sometimes over simplify how we aportion blame on hate figures like Thatcher. Yeah she was an auld cvnt but much of what she did would have happened one way or another which points to the fact that governments tend to not work in the best interests of the people, something that has been evident in the leadership of Tony Blair also for a counterpoint.

    It's relevant to this topic inasmuch as the repercussions of things like immigration policy don't tend to give much thought to the people (be they the existing citizenry or those being brought into the jurisdiction) either.

    We currently have a situation in this country where we're creating awful outcomes for both the existing Irish and those who are arriving and will continue to do so into the future and any concern about that is being framed as being based in extremism and hate.

    We can cancel as many people as we like but it isn't making a blind bit of difference to people in need in Ireland and never will.

    The road to hell is yet again paved with good intentions and the rhetoric is ringing hollow as usual but you better not saying so or else.

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    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭Lotus Flower


    Brilliant post @nullzero and spot on

    The shitshow thats happening at the moment is actually making lives worse for a lot of Irish people while the people in charge don’t have to live with the bad effects but can pat themselves on the back at the same time. They’re much better people than the far right you see



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,850 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Where did you get the idea that those " single males " are being housed ? Stop with this hyperbole .

    Social housing is still allocated by council housing lists and it is as always allocated by need ie length of time on waiting list and families first .

    Yes there isn't enough houses and what is being built is too expensive ..and that has been the issue for the last 10 years .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭Packrat


    If they have any sense they won't still be single males by then.

    Can't they bring over their wives and children, under family reunification,

    Then they'll get houses.

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



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