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Room to Improve (v2)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,454 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    It's the strangest episode ever. The excuse as to why it wasn't finished was just that, an excuse.

    I wouldn't be surprised if the two lads ran out of funds and were also out of options to raise the balance. It's TV land remember, it had to be wrapped up regardless.

    I would fear those poor lads are left with it as is and it will still be like that for the foreseeable, they have a fair debt to deal with and I'm sure Dermot Bannon and Coco Television have washed their hands of it.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,746 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Mezzanine casting a dark shadow over that black kitchen

    Not for me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,746 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    In ours a decade. Not a hint of a draft. House is A rated and feels every bit of it.

    Maybe more a fitter issue then a product issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭?Cee?view


    The negativity here is amazing. They started with a dark damp wreck and by the end are nearly there with a stylish light filled home. A lovely couple too. I wish them all the best.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,392 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    I like the idea of the mezzanine, but I don't like the idea of it being directly over the worktop.

    If you are hoovering any dust etc will potentially be pushed over onto the worktop.

    Plus if anything falls over and hits the hob, I'd imagine that's the hob smashed.

    With two dogs a dog toy could easily fall down etc.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,804 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    Nearly every episode this season had Munster Joinery



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭Bocadilloo


    The whole episode tonight was all over the shop.

    So much time spent talking rubbish, in the school, wandering around some strangers house. Then a final break to go from a building site to a finished house. Only this time it was far from it.

    380k plus 240k spend I think it was. So we are at 620k and a good way to go.

    I wouldn't touch that age property knowing what could possibly crop up..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    I'd say people with a house who get on this show get at the very least €25k for being on it.

    The homeowners? They do not receive any payment for being on it.

    My understanding is that the only incentive is that you can get Dermot Bannon to be your architect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    I used to think that RTE paid Bannons fee on behalf of the clients...

    But this is actually not the case....

    Why the fùck would you go on this show??

    Just to be on TV....Madness.

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭itsacoolday


    It used to be the case that the TV company paid Dermot Bannon's fees. I'd be surprised if that was still not the case.

    Also, you can be sure businesses appearing on the show (eg Munster joinery) put it very competitive quotes in return for the "free" publicity. Would be interesting to see a breakdown of figures, but that is not going to happen.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭Mo Ghile Mear


    I agree , too much banter and time filler and little or no discussion on how they sorted the water issue or the process of the construction. It should be possible to keep the show light and not too technical but at the same time concentrate on the issues that people who might be thinking of doing a bit of building would want to hear. Visiting the school was ridiculous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Maybe the kitchen was just fitted for the end of the show and will be pulled out again so the house will be finished.

    One of the lads said the kitchen was like a hotel. Yeah, not good, they will probably change it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭mykrodot


    That show was daunting, I wouldn't be able for that stress and the "not knowing" aspects of what would turn up. What on earth happened the underground water and did they divert it…. there was mention of a tank by the QS that was an absolute necessity and was factored into the cost at an extra €5K?

    I really wish they would explain these things to viewers. Its so frustrating when they make a big issue out of something but never tell you how they fixed it.

    Did the mirrors go on the splashback? Dermot made a point about having them as you did your washing up and you get a lovey reflection of the garden (aka building site!)…. but I didn't see them at the end. "A sink should always face a window" used to be a thing. I know its not always possible but at least make the area bright and attractive, not dark.

    A lovely couple, really hope it all works out for them!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,746 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    The thing is Dermot would have well known what was likely to come up. These guys should have been well informed as to the need for a serious contingency fund. Instead we get the drama of Dermot coming back with a plan which used almost every cent of their budget with zero contingency.

    And within a week the budget was blown.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭itsacoolday


    Yeah, when was the last time anyone saw a kitchen in a hotel? If someone goes away to a nice hotel on holidays, do they come back and say ," some hotel that, it had a lovely looking kitchen." Who would want a hotel kitchen in their house?

    Another puzzling thing was the water seepage on the site, I think someone said it was like building on water. Would subsidence not be a worry there. We were told there was a need for tanking but wonder how it turned out. I would be reluctant to pay 380.000 ( perhaps the guts of 400k inc stamp duty and legal fees) for an old building like that with water under the floors?

    Anyway, best of luck to all involved.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,746 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Every episode is filler docudrama at this stage. Maybe that's what people want but last night was particularly bad.

    I wonder did the architects of that other house pay for that promo. They spent way longer than they normally would on that segment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭blackbox


    Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention, but I didn't understand how they resolved the water table issue.

    They talked about tanking the outside of the walls, but this wouldn't stop water seeping up through the floor and the bottom of the walls.

    I thought you'd have to dig a sump and put a pump with a level switch in it to keep removing the water.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,392 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    I'd imagine the fact they hit so many issues during the build and the build is not finished is why there is extra filler.

    Probably should have waited until next season to air it but then they'd be an episode short.

    It wasn't an overly enjoyable episode. I was stressed just watching it. If I lived on that road I also wouldn't be overly happy by the discoveries made as I doubt their house is an isolated case.



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    The small lad is an engineer. Anyway, most house surveys are just a cursory look costing a few hundred euro. A proper engineers survey would cost thousands.



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    Ture. I would have liked to see the tanking process. It looks as if they dug out the floor (going to happen anyway) and just built up block walls inside the existing basement. Making the basement even smaller. I thought tanking was (can be) a more involved process.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,543 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Water ingress into basements would be common enough in city houses I would have thought and dealt with routinely.
    Once again you could see Bannon's bad acting as he feigned surprise that it was happening.
    Overly dramatised for what is after all 'entertainment' TV.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,026 ✭✭✭newhouse87


    100% a fitter isssue, munster has some v rough around the edges fitters. Father had been on sites with some of them and warned the guy who quoted the house that if he saw a certain few of them, deal was off. In over 3 years now and no drafts anywhere and were near 10k cheaper then next.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,543 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Yes to this. You can have the highest performing windows ever and they can be rendered useless by dodgy fitting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    No, he’s correct, you still pay Bannon’s fees.

    As you say, every tradesman and supplier is on his best behaviour to take advantage of the free publicity, on a big project that’s a serious incentive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭jellybeano


    We use to own a house around the corner. The area used to be called Mud Island. The water table around there naturally sits very high, or the land is low. Whichever way you want to look at it. Drains in the area prone to backing up too. Not great at times of heavy rain.

    The other house they viewed was Sonia Lennons. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFmz_OzsmQa/?igsh=azl4YTZld25oZG4= The finishes are very different. Hopefully the lads get the house they deserve 🥰

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,493 ✭✭✭✭Sadb


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭justfortherecor


    Poor guys, that was a tough watch. While the tall guy (Sean?) maintained a brave face on it throughout, I thought Cal's (the engineer) demeanour in the second half was telling. Pretty short in any interactions with DB and just looked a bit downbeat and beaten up by it all.

    Hope it works out for them and they can make it a fabulous house in the long term. In the short term, it's a hyper stressful (and expensive) experience and they're left to pick up the pieces after the Room To Improve crew pack up their set and roll on to the next season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭ILikeBoats


    I don't think they should have shown it until it's finished. If it's not ready then push it until next season.

    Was confused about the basement front door too.

    They need to show more of the build and less of the pointless filler. Wouldn't be a difficult job, send out a cameraman every fortnight, or milestone, Dermot can voiceover. Turning into Ramseys kitchen nightmares where he eventually just became a counsellor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,475 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    he loves impractical open to the house offices… the woman the previous week tackled him on it.

    Will the front basement bedroom turn into his office.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,385 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Still a fair bit of work to do and money to be spent. I don't like the kitchen personally but hey. I hope they get it done and have a very nice house to go with the two very lovely dogs soon! I wonder did the grotto make it?!

    I don't buy that they didn't know there would be issues with water levels etc, that road is known to be a flood risk, just needs a quick Google.

    Also I don't want this to come out wrong (I am a gay man myself) but lovely to see a nice "normal", sound gay couple on a TV show. These guys are much more representative of the gay guys I know versus the usual loopers like they have on say first dates.



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