Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

Tesla potentially gonna be targeted with tariffs by Canada, if they go for 50% then that makes them unsellable. I can see other countries following suit if they're targeted. I can't see Trump associates being happy if they're all targeted. But if you okay stupid games, expect them to backfire when the grownups respond.

I wouldn't even equate Trump to a "jock" as that would require some sort of athletic ability. It's actually kinda funny when you see people here call Trump as strong man. He's the definition of a weak man. His birth privilege granted him everything he has. He's a pathetic individual who would be dead or in the gutter only for being born to wealth.

Agreed. I was thinking more of the shallow minded arrogance that goes with the stereotype rather than any athletic ability.

I think his presidency is effectively over now, he's mired himself in economic problems which will outlive his four years.

One of the largest buyers of alcohol in the world LCBO(State body that buys all of Ontario's alcohol) to stop selling US liquor from Tuesday. Those tariffs are gonna have lots of knock on impacts on US businesses…. The US economy and consumer is gonna suffer..

https://www.ctvnews.ca/toronto/article/not-anymore-american-liquor-to-be-removed-from-lcbo-shelves-on-tuesday-ford-says/

I wonder what the MAGA sycophants will come up with in reaction to this? Will they drop Maple Syrup from their pancakes and replace it with Freedom Syrup? (or some such titled product designed to part them with their cash at a premium)

That’s giving me flashbacks to the whole Freedom Fries nonsense. Even before MAGA had a name, we had block headed far right fanboys boycotting “French Fries” due to France’s refusal to join the Iraq War.

That and if American remains in tact enough by the time we got to mid terms, there will be little ambiguity left about how truly useless Donnie & MAGA are in practice. I’m only guessing, but part of me wonders if the collective voting public in the US have either a limited political memory that doesn’t last more than 4 years, or were mostly ignorant to what Donnie & Co. were saying. Now they will get near daily reminders of how spectacularly bad Donnie is in general to remind them of why he was voted out last time.

Assuming democracy survives in the US, MAGA might have wished that Donnie hadn’t won in 2024. In that scenario they could have spent the next 4 years wringing their hands at Harris and pretending that they could have done things better. Now they have to put extra energy into trying to pretend that the Dems are the reason for MAGA’s failures…but that tactic runs out fairly quickly after the first 100 days, and thereafter even the least attentive voter will likely place any blame on the current crowd in charge.

Protectionist, maybe, but isolationist? I don't know about that. I think what's being mistaken for isolationism is really a reconsideration of geo-political interests. If the US under Trump was truly isolationist, there wouldn't be these weird musings about acquiring Greenland when it is currently a territory belonging to Denmark.

But I don't think either of these things are in any way positive, anyway. Trump's US suddenly shrinking away from former allies has big implications in terms of defense and trade. In time, all things can be reordered, but you could expect the short to medium term to be fraught.

And think about this - Trump's only been office for less than two weeks, and look how much damage he's already done. Even if we were to suppose that the US midterms in 2026 would matter, Trump has another 20 months before that point comes. That's an awful lot of time to enact and entrench Project 2025, considering the speed at which he and his cronies are moving.

I'm surprised they are just stopping selling it. Could be more room to replace them with Irish whiskey. I guess there's also the possibility of just boycotts of American products which have far more implications to American manufacturers. Total can of worms Trump has opened.

What timeline am I living in where this is something being touted by the sitting president of the USA?

Not that I want to even entertain the suggestion, but someone should tell Trump that this 51st state would be a larger landmass than the rest of the US. Seems a bit lopsided.

And the film Canadian Bacon was supposed to be a silly comedy about a situation so outlandish, it could never be taken seriously. Now, it's looking like a basis for current American foreign policy.

Anyone else noticing how the Trump fans are celebrating him signing crap but studiously ignoring the consequences. It's almost as if they know it's impossible to actually justify or to claim as a success. To use an example Trump is gonna start a trade war with the globe, the party that suffers the most in that scenario is the US. We're already seeing consequences from just Mexico and Canada... Even the Putin bots tend to make more of an effort.

To be honest it took Hitler only weeks of taking power to corrupt Germany into what it became and only 12 years for him to bring that country to ruination. The speed in which these sorts of events can occur can be hard to comprehend sometimes. Even I'm seriously worried about what's happening over there right now, the kind of corruption that Musk and Trump are trying to peddle is going to do major damage to the US unless something extraordinary were to happen that would put an end to it like a general strike, country wide rolling protests or even the military stepping in. Don't even know if the US will last to the next midterms are the current speed they're going right now.

Canada asks the world to consider when they buy US goods. Only a matter of time before EU says same

"I ask people here and around the world to buy responsibly, and support us in standing up to the American bully next door," NL premier Andrew Furey said.

The greatest thing Canada, Mexico and the EU could do right now to hit back would be to apply a 50% Swasticar Tax/Tariff on Tesla and possibly move to shut down or block twitter in those regions, it would mess with Elon big time and shutting down his peddling of Fascist and Vatnik Propaganda is a net positive IMO and certainly something that could be a shot across the bow of the likes of Meta to get their act together as well. The States is in this situation in one part because of Citizens United but the peddling of what I can call "Weapons Grade Bullshit" over the years has only certainly made politics more polarised and poisonous in plenty of countries.