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2024 Assistant Principal in Civil Service

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 Sinradler


    It's definitely two years of overall service, and it's to the date of the application so you're fine!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 sileni


    Mise! I'm not sure how it works. My OOM indicates that I probably won't be successful this time around, but when I got the email yesterday to opt in for Irish language positions it made me wonder if it changes the timeline/odds of moving ahead. Any insight would be very much appreciated if you have any!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭is that a button


    I don't know anything about this.. but I would think that anyone who opts for Irish language position should certainly have some advantage in a comp. I would imagine that fluent Irish speakers are hard to come by in civil service & there is certainly a requirement there for them. Also with staff mobility etc I'm sure there would be vacancies to fill. I would think having passed the original tests & if you pass the Irish fluency test then you should stand a good chance provided there's positions in your chosen area. Also the "pool" of fluent Irish speakers in a comp would be considerably smaller...so you may have greater chance of appointment. Would be interested to see how things go for you! Best of Luck!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 com775


    That’s exactly what I was thinking! I saw something about 6% of panels are dedicated to Irish speakers. I don’t know if it makes us any more likely to get shortlisted/interviewed or not or if there is a separate “stream” or what. I wonder is it exclusively for Irish-language roles (of which I presume there are few) or if you could be placed in an English-speaking role where Irish may be beneficial e.g. legislative or policy roles adjacent to the Irish language? Fingers crossed dúinn!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭ShatterResistant


    Screenshot 2025-01-25 at 22.06.48.png

    Appointments from Irish Language Stream by competition listed above.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 sileni


    Thank you! Happy to update here if there's any movement, if you are curious.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭is that a button


    Yes, please do! ..looking at the table posted above by @ShatterResistant , appointments were made in 2016 & 2020...4 year gap.. 2024 comp could be your year!! 🤞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 LaydeeLuck


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 ZXCVBNMNB


    Has anyone heard anything from PAS about when shortlisting will begin?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 gerdywerdy


    Does anyone know if you can move or down at shortlisting stage

    for example if you were 5th after tests and your form was passed would you stay 5th or could somebody leapfrog over if there form considered better.

    My understanding is you can move up if somebody above you does not pass shortlisting but you cannot move down but this may be incorrect

    thanks everyone



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 977 ✭✭✭furrybones


    At shortlisting stage you can move up, down or be eliminated altogether.

    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 Caip79


    did anyone receive any further correspondence regarding shortlisting after review of applications?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 LaydeeLuck


    No, still waiting to hear. I'd just like to know where I stand in terms of OOM. I did ok in the tests but that doesn't mean much seeing as you can still be eliminated during the shortlisting stage. I'm surprized there is such a delay. Appointments from the last AP comp (2022) will cease at the end of Feb. They already extended that comp so I doubt they can extend it again. You would think they would be hosting Batch 1 interviews for this comp in order to have a panel ready. There must be very little demand for AP's at present..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,505 ✭✭✭bren2001


    I'm surprized there is such a delay.

    They've only just released the results from the test. They now need to read your application form and score it to develop a new OOM.

    I think your expectations are a bit unrealistic. I would expect it to be another while before they make it through the Batch #1 forms. There's only so many you can score in a day.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,637 Mod ✭✭✭✭dory


    As was said above, it takes a long time to read and score forms. Also, departments have internal and interdepartmental panels that they can still pull from so there'll be no gap in hiring.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 791 ✭✭✭durthacht


    According to my records of the last competition there were two weeks between stage 1 results and confirmation whether candidates had reached the threshold for shortlisting to interview (i.e. 27 Jan to 10 Feb 2023).

    We are now two weeks since stage 1 results so I expect communication imminently on whether we have reached the interview threshold.

    Good luck with your application.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 Lollyy


    They’re still placing people from the 2022 panel. I know someone who just got appointed. There are still people on that panel. Hard to see how they will get this competition done when there is so little time for the whole process. If they stick with the timeline it looks like there will be very few appointments from this competition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 InvisibleInk


    Has anyone had an update? Was expecting to hear by now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭Austin1


    In the 2022 competition it was over 6 weeks between test results and shortlisting results.😮



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 791 ✭✭✭durthacht


    Maybe we're talking about different things, but I have just double checked the 2022 competition communications, and I definitely got my results for stage 1 (aptitude tests) on 26 January 2023, results for stage 2 (application form review) on 10 February 2023, and I was invited to stage 3 (interview) in mid-May 2023.

    I'm afraid I can't explain why your experience was different.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭Austin1


    Actually you're right and I read my records wrong. It was 6 wks from shortlist result to interview and it was indeed 2 weeks from test results to shortlisting - sorry about that!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 791 ✭✭✭durthacht




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 Mac88


    Hi all, I’ve never done a civil service interview before and looking to get some practice - are there any organisations that people have used / would recommend? Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 791 ✭✭✭durthacht


    Thereare lots of interview coaches who specialise in the public sector. The Communications Clinic are one but they are expensive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 LouiseHarp


    I reached out to public jobs regarding shortlisting timeframes. Sharing the response here. It appears some people in Batch 1 may hear back in February.

    "A shortlisting board is meeting from now to early February to assess candidates’ applications.

    Candidates are called from Stage 1 – Online Assessment to Stage 2 – Shortlisting based on their total score.

    Candidates are brought forward to each stage in batches. The number of candidates per batch varies depending on the number of outstanding vacancies, so we are only calling candidates forward when there is a demand from Departments to fill vacancies within locations.

    Should there be demand for your chosen location, and we reach your total score from Stage 1, we will be in contact with you via your publicjobs message board."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 Lollyy


    Thanks for sharing that update. It seems we’re in for quite a wait 😵‍💫



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 InvisibleInk


    Did they mention how big each batch is?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 LouiseHarp


    "The number of candidates per batch varies depending on the number of outstanding vacancies"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 InvisibleInk


    Thanks it's answers the question but they've left it super vague so still none the wiser!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Angel Flora


    The starting salary for EO is €36K, non-negotiable. Did anyone manage to negotiate? I can’t believe the pay is that low for starters. They contacted me for the interview, however my salary is way higher than that, so it doesn’t make much sense to take it, financially.

    On the other hand, I’d love to get the AP position in Galway (OOM 23), but there aren’t any vacancies compared to Dublin :/



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