Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

Playing devils advocate, how could one simultaneously claim it would be antisemitic to opine that there might be a strong correlation between being Jewish and being a supporter of zionism (in its current, or any other form) …. but then at the same time claim that people who don't agree with zionism are anti-semitic because jewish equates to zionism; so attacking the latter is an attack on the former.

Would it be anti-Irish bigotry to have had the opinion that Biden coming into the Whitehouse might have a bias in favour of Ireland e.g. for Brexit matters?

There are no absolutes in this world but I'd be happy to bet that if you polled a group of Irish people randomly walking down O'Connell Street and found what percentage supported Netanyahooooo's actions, you'd get a fairly different result than if you polled people coming out of a synagogue. Do you disagree?

The two are different, but there is a strong correlation between being jewish and supporting zionism in its current form and actions.

You're probably aware that Britain has two large sovereign military bases in Cyprus, which they retained when Cyprus became independent. They were apparently used to support the Israeli genocide in Gaza, observation certainly and most probably as staging posts for munitions.

Curiously, the Brits stood idly by when Turkey invaded Cyprus in 1974 despite having these military bases on the island.

I actually agree with you, she looks white. Her parents are indian and jamacian. Not sure what that says, but not obviously black.

There are plenty Holocaust deniers on this thread but it is not what you think

I see Naama Levy was one of the idf members exchanged by Hamas a few days ago. I recall that back in Oct 2023 there was intensive israeli claims she was raped by the Palestinians who captured her on the basis she was seen to have blood on her trousers when she was being transported. There was no other evidence offered for the claim so it always seemed at best unproven. But the claim did play a large part of the israeli effort to demonise the inhabitants of Gaza and prepare the narrative for the attempted genocide.

Now that she is back in israel, has there been any confirmation from her or her family that the claims made by the israelis were indeed true? I've not seen any reference to the earlier israeli claims about her in any of the stories. It seems to be entirely forgotten.

When all else fails, there is the zionist bingo card to fall back to.

Is is not racist/antisemitic/whatever to point out that you stats are wrong. The 60% figure which you are misquoting, is one that you might have seen somewhere as the percentage of the world's Jewish population which lived in Europe when the Nazi party came to power in the early 30's. It is not the percentage of the global jewish population killed during the years of WWII. Pointing out your mistake is not trying to diminish anything. It's just educating you on some facts which you have incorrect.

Have a think about your figures. If 6 million equated to both 2/3rd of European, and 60% of global, that would mean that there were only 1 million living outside Europe. So your 60% figure is wrong because the global population was larger. Again that doesn't diminish the deaths of the 6 million

Max Blumenthal discusses Naama Levy and concludes rape was not likely.

It's possible you were completely oblivious.

It seems the most high profile rape may belong in the same category as the 40 beheaded babies.

The Israeli's have accused Palestinians of being savage rapist baby killers when in fact…

Your comment is also very strange as it seems to imply you are not Irish and are not familiar with Irish people.

Are you perchance Israeli? Also, do you condemn the rape of Palestinian prisoners with dogs?

Oh, someone disagrees with you, so they can't be Irish, they must be Israeli. Where have we seen that before?

How are we vulnerablr and to what?

This post says it best

Why would I answer any question from someone who doubts my Irishness, based on their prejudicial view of Israelis?

"What does this have to do with us"

By 'this', I assume you mean crimes against humanity, genocide, etc.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'us', us as in the people of Ireland?

I can't speak for everyone in Ireland but personally I haven't heard from a Gazan friend I worked with since July and I hate the genocide being perpetrated by Israel and want it to stop. I met three Israeli's who were nice at the time (2 were traveling before becoming 99s) and am pretty sure not all Israeli's are deranged rapists. I think not only are the IDF destroying Gaza but themselves too, so there's that.

The other part of 'us' might be you. By your comments you seem to want the Palestinians ethnically cleansed as swiftly as possible so I guess that's what it has to do with you?

As mainstream as it gets.

The most high-profile claim came Wednesday night when President Joe Biden said that he had seen photographic evidence of terrorists beheading children.

Naama Levy is a member of an apartheid evil army. Max Blumenthal, the anti Zionist Jewish reporter discussed her release in detail. You can listen if you like.

It seems the Israeli's used these rape and beheaded babies claims and others to justify destroying hospitals, murdering children, raping prisoners, steal land, etc.

Unlike you, I have no desire for either Hamas or the Israeli government of Netanyahu to murder Jewish or Palestinian children.

I am very strongly against rape and baby murdering. I hope that Israel will discontinue raping prisoners with dogs etc

As for you...

do you condemn the rape of Palestinian captives with dogs?

Yes, like I said, the 2 reports got conflated into 40 beheaded babies on social media and this then made it into reporting such as the link above. The original reporter never said that.

And yes, i do condemn that. It's sick. I can't see anyone condoning that tbh.