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Weird Flex of having a Fireplace

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,749 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    That's a ceramic hob, induction hobs don't glow far as I know and have zones of heat…they only heat the bottom of whatever is sitting on it and not the whole zone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    If it's an open fire why is there flex? unless it's an electric fire with a flex. Maybe it went out during the storm due to a power cut, meaning there's nothing wrong with the flex 🔥



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    You want to deny reality. You claimed it was clean and showed it isn’t and won’t admit it but I am apparently spoofing. I took out a fire place and the hearth and have more space in the room. You want to deny the physical world. Yes put furniture in the space as I did, what is wrong with coffee table instead of a dirty black, smelly, occasionally damaging box?

    What did I spoof? The move away from solid fuel?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,448 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    Can’t take your comment about gas being better to cook on seriously now. You don’t even know what an induction hob is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,557 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Fair enough will have to take that one on the chin



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,749 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    My dishes are clean. They get dirty when I use them then I clean them. Normal life.
    Your opinions are based on ludicrous assumptions about things and people.
    My granny would have called you ‘ ‘someone who thinks their farts smell of roses’



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,263 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Dublin, Limerick, Cork and other large urban areas all had mains gas from the mid/late 80's. If you were building a house after that you had the option of gas heating and gas fires.it was a no brainer really. Main gas was the cheapest form of heating in urban area for a long time.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,356 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Its also an elderly thing, I die in my parents house, and they constantly ask are you cold. Mam, I am in a t shirt and shorts in winter because I am too warm in your house, do not turn the heat up because I make you "feel" cold.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,527 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    you should try one - you can't compare it to a radiant hob. the way it heats the pan is essentially by using magnets to vibrate the iron atoms in the cookware, so it's very energy efficient to run compared to other electric methods - the ring won't turn on if there's no 'resistance' like that to heat. you can hold your hand on the hob, turn it up full, and nothing will happen if there's no iron or steel on the hob.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,527 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    'the stove also looks grimy'

    thanks, i needed the laugh!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    …. It also needs a new flex!

    Presuming it's electric ⚡



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,557 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Maybe some day for now I'm very happy with my gas hob only installed it 2 years ago. Also I do quite a bit of wok cooking and I cant see any other way of wok cooking only a big gas ring.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,527 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    because i'm bored, i did a quick test; an easy one. this is one cup of water from the cold tap, in a milk pan, on the big ring on our hob; i think it's about 20 years old but i don't think there's anything to suggest newer ones would be quicker.

    given the temps outside, it's probably safe to assume the water started out below 10C. so just a shade over a minute to get to the boil.

    one difference between this and a ceramic hob is that there's no benefit to putting it on the big ring on a ceramic hob. as it just uses heat, it can only heat proportional to the temperature the ring puts out, which i assume is the same whatever size the ring is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,749 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,557 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,527 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    FWIW the main noise in the background is the dishwasher but there are glitchy sounds which i assume are the hob interfering with the phone in some way?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭Papagei


    It would appear you do indeed give a fukc judging by your aggressive response.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Confusing title for sure, seems like flex may not refer to electric flex ….

    Leaving the flex confusion aside, I do like a good wood burning stove, recessed if possible although I'm told a free standing stove on the hearth gives out more heat 🔥



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,375 ✭✭✭jj880


    Just noticed you started using yours in 1992. Thats excellent. I thought perhaps the back boiler might have gave out before that but I'll be happy if I get 33 years out of mine. There seems to be some confusion over the matt finish on these stoves being "grimy". Mine looks the same on the outside as when I got it. Ive replaced the fire rope around the doors once with a kit from Amazon but that's it. Ive seen other stoves with parts that wear out but not Stanleys. My uncle recently got a spare back boiler for his in case they are hard to get in future. I think I'll do the same.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,342 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    That is likely halogen, definitely not induction. I have gas and induction in the same hob and the induction is better, except for when using a wok.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    The estate I grew up in was built before the 80s as is my current home. They moved away from solid fuel. Price is always a factor but adding central heating also costs. Very few have not been upgraded just like replacing windows with double glazing. I was around in the 80s and they were still building houses with solid fuel fires and they did not come with central heating and gas. It wasn't until the 90s some properties came with central heating and no solid fuel fires.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    You do understand we are talking about heating and the point is there is no dirt from switching on central heating versus a solid fuel heating? You might be accustomed to the hassle and dirt but that doesn't change reality and the photos of it being clean showed it isn't.

    To claim I am sort of snob because I don't want the dirt and hassle is just being defensive. People are denying reality



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,959 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    People are denying reality

    Huh?

    Anyway, you are leaving out a very important metric in your rather bizarre and ill timed crusade against people who own stoves.

    Value. People like having stoves, people like having multiple forms of energy and heating. They get value from it.

    You could have the exact same argument about synthetic grass versus actual grass.

    There is value in both.

    Who in there right mind would want to feed dirt and cut grass? It is absolutely madness when there is a very low maintenance alternative.

    Personally my favourite time of a summers day is sitting out the back drinking a beer with the smell of fresh cut grass looking at a well manicured lawn .

    Again value, for me personally. Bit of work, but sure that never killed anyone. It's good for the body and mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,379 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Did a quick poll in the office (ok, just 6 people of various ages from twenties up) and no one knew flex was a different word for boast.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Context makes a huge difference. Either way it is well covered. Ask them what "spendthrift" means and give us the results seeing as you want to research the knowledge of your office.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,959 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Probably because it is one of those "older" used phrases that does seem to be making a bit of a comeback.

    Maybe it hasn't filtered to them yet.

    Will "Take my wife's name out of your mouth" Smith used it in his song Getting Jiggy With it. Or whatever that shíté was called.

    That must be nearly 30 years old.

    It is used a lot in the gaming world now, so maybe younger people have rediscovered it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    You are completely missing the point while also pointing out part of the issue. Objectively solid fuel is messy and hassle. People are claiming none of that is an issue to them because they are used to it and it really doesn't take time. The cost of upgrading prevents people from improving their heating as per what you said. People have gloated that because they had solid fuel during the power outage didn't effect them and how useless modern heating is.

    So yes pros and cons for everything but people are denying the cons of their choices. Photos to prove it was clean having a stove show it is not and people are denying it. I have no crusade against stoves they are just impractical for lots of different people and housing and not a choice many people will take in a suburban environment for reasons listed. That is all.

    People have said they prefer a drafty house with an open fire than a modern A rated property with modern heating. Fine for their personal choice but objectively the better option is the A rated property. To say the old property is better for heating is to deny reality



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,959 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    People have gloated that because they had solid fuel during the power outage didn't effect them and how useless modern heating is.

    Have they? 2 comments on the Journal? The Journal comments section is made of 50% cranks and 50% of people winding up the cranks. Again I wouldn't be taking the comments sections of any online "news" seriously. I certainly wouldn't be getting perturbed enough to start a thread about it.

    Objectively solid fuel is messy and hassle.

    So is having real grass. But there is a value in it. Do you see the point?

    People have said they prefer a drafty house with an open fire than a modern A rated property with modern heating. Fine for their personal choice but objectively the better option is the A rated property. To say the old property is better for heating is to deny reality

    Link?

    People have gloated that because they had solid fuel during the power outage didn't effect them and how useless modern heating is.

    People you have met in real life or cranks in comment sections?

    I helped a lady load water into her car last night, she has had absolutely nothing since Friday. No water, light, heat, cell coverage, contents of fridge and freezer perished.

    She did volunteer that they had a stove which allowed the family a bit of comfort and to congregate in one room.

    A sliver of comfort in her no end date misery.

    At no point did I think, What a gloating bitch.

    Primarily because I am not psychotic.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,527 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    I have no crusade against stoves

    you could have fooled us.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Never difficult for a fool to be fooled. Want to point out where I am crusading for them to be removed?



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