Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

No issues with Mitten he has his place and been around years. I'd much prefer him than the spoofers like Miguel Delaney and the likes.

Apparently he is very reliable for Spurs.

In relation to Mathys Tel, no idea why we want him 19 and no goals this season, makes no sense.

Edit : Ornstein confirms loan interest.

Unearthing the next Mbappe was what Ineos said they would do rather than sign the big name players.

While our forwards arent playing great they're also not getting much service.

Hojlunds XG in the league is just over 2 and Zirkzees is just under 4 which is showing how few chances they get.

That's fair point and I'd agree but also on the other hand if a forward is not getting into the right positions then he won't have much if an xg stat. How many times do we see rasmus out near the corner flag in possession and no one in the box, or Garnacho or amad just outside wide of the box and zirkzee outside the D.

He comes across as the least goal hungry forward ever ha. His work rate and link up are very good but when you have no prolific wide players you can't get away with that.

And given his versatility it still allows you down the line to sign one of those other LWBs if the possiblity arises with Dorgu moving to RWB.

If the reason he was out of training was more down to transfer discussions then surely there is a better message for the club and manager to put out that he is so bad at training or some other aspect of his approach to football that I would rather name a 63yo GK coach on the bench…

And then we also have the fact he was named on the bench in some recent game (can't remember which) since he was dropped, and then not named on a shorted bench vs Rangers (followed by the GK comment).

Whatever has happened between Amorim and Rashford, or whatever their different perspective is, I just can't see how it could possibly have a resolution that sees Rashford return to being a usable member of the squad - cause if it hasn't happened after 6 weeks I can't imagine it chaning in reality tomorrow (or whatever).

And for what its worth, I don't think it is just training. I think there has to be something more to it, some serious on both sides of the argument. Its a bizarre situation in general imo, cause I don't get how Rashford could be a uniquely poor trainer - according to the narrative - to such a degree he is ommited and no one else is. As much as people on here seem to like to point to Rashford as possibly the worst and most toxic footballer of all time and a source of everything that is wrong at United; I just can't see how that would be bourne out by the reality of his career. Which, while you can be disappointed by his career, being a United player for 7+ years and being an England international I don't see how that would be possibly if he is (and always has been) as terrible a footballer as people make out.

I also assume Amorim is correct in what he has done. I don't think he has singled Rashford out to make a statement. I don't think he is doing this for no valid reasons. I don't think he is being specifiically unfair. So, as I say, i find it bizarre as to where things are - something has clearly become massively broken, but I dont think it has always been as broken without acknowledgement.

Apparently his deal with RBL is only on contract til 2027!

Have to imagine this is a FFP move and PSG will buy him back in summer 2026 for some profit on the deal they have done here. Effectively a high priced loan, other wise the contract length against the transfer fee is INSANE.

Whatever the issues are definitely are not all about how he is training.

I suspect there are other issues at play connected to his personal life .

Unfortunately whatever it is has been going on for too long and for a player of his talent not to be able to make the United bench, dropped from the England squad and for very little interest of any of the big clubs to get involved in the transfer saga it says a lot.

I was the one shot down for suggesting Marcus wasn't the only one not giving it his all, but as I'm in the same PR firm as Liamo it wasn't a valid point.

I think they've decided rightly or wrongly that MR is a culture setter at the club in a bad way. Whether this view has been come to through evidence, deduction, perception or bias is unclear for us on the outside.

It's not an unreasonable stance in isolation as he is the senior pro who has been around the longest during the ongoing malaise.

Is it fair though? He was a talented youngster for the majority of the aforementioned malaise and is more likely a victim of it than a perpetuator. That's the part where I'm not sure. I love Amorim and want him to succeed but it is these areas where he will probably succeed or fail. If they get MR out and then the culture changes and everyone is rowing in the same direction under the manager - great!

But as looks more likely now MR remains at the club and continues to be left out and the players he does have influence over begin to question the fairness of the situation, the coach likely fails and his ideas and approach die on the vine.